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Episode 3 Show Notes
In episode 3 of WooBiz, our guest is Shawn Martin, a psychic medium based in Hamilton, Canada. Shawn trains host Andy Walker and WooBiz listeners in how to use channeling to access unseen information that we can use in our work or our lives. This episode includes an exercise where you can start using a basic form of channeling called automatic writing to gain insights into your business and your activities at work.
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You can also see how host Andy Walker used Shawn Martin’s in-show automatic writing exercise to try out automatic writing. Read his post here.
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- For transcript of this episode, see below.
- WooBiz is hosted by Andy Walker and produced by Kay Walker
- Transcript. Click here to scroll to transcript
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Summary of the Woo Biz Episode with Shawn Martin
Key themes in this episode include:
Key Highlights
Shawn’s Background
- Shawn shares his journey as a psychic medium and how he channels spiritual guidance for individuals and businesses.
- He describes his experience working with startup founders and executives, helping them make aligned decisions based on spiritual insight.
- He distinguishes between psychic, mediumship, and channeling work, focusing on his ability to connect with non-physical entities and collective consciousness.
Channeling and Business
- Shawn explains how channeling can be used to answer practical business questions, such as:
- Whether to launch a product
- Timing for business growth
- Leadership alignment
- Hiring decisions
- He shares that channeling isn’t about predicting the future, but about uncovering energy alignments and blocks.
Energetic Alignment in Leadership
- Both Andy and Shawn discuss how energetic misalignment can cause burnout, stagnation, or toxic culture in companies.
- Shawn emphasizes the importance of founders staying true to their vision and energy frequency.
- Businesses that succeed tend to have leaders who are energetically clear and in flow with their purpose.
Client Examples
- Shawn references several anonymous client sessions where channeling led to powerful insights:
- A founder discovering that a launch delay was divinely guided
- An executive realigning after leaving a toxic work environment
- A CEO realizing their current business no longer served their soul’s evolution
Ethics and Discernment
- Shawn explains his ethical approach: he avoids giving advice that overrides a client’s agency.
- He encourages clients to use channeling as a complement to logical business planning, not a replacement.
Integration with Strategy
- Andy reflects on how WooBiz aims to bring together spiritual insight with entrepreneurial action.
- Shawn echoes that message, stating that intuition can be a strategic asset when grounded in practical action.
Episode Transcript
Ep3: Channeling for Business with Psychic Medium Shawn Martin
[00:00]
Andy Walker:
Psychic medium Sean Martin reveals how channeling can uncover hidden opportunities and sharpen your business decisions.
[00:08] Plus, a simple exercise you can try yourself today on Woo Biz.
[00:16] Welcome to Woo Biz,
[00:19] the show where chakras meet spreadsheets and spirit guides crash your Monday morning strategy call.
[00:24] I’m your host, Andy Walker. And today we’re diving headfirst into the mystical side of entrepreneurship with psychic media medium Sean Martin. He’s here to prove that channeling isn’t just for incense scented yoga studios.
[00:38] No, no, no. It’s a legit tool to unlock insights, spot blind spots, and maybe even save your next product launch.
[00:46] And hang tight because at the end of the episode, Sean will lead us through a first timer friendly channeling exercise, which, by the way, is amazing.
[00:55] And that just might turn your to do list into. Into a transmission from the divine.
[01:01] Really? I’m serious. It’s really cool.
[01:03] Now let’s bring in our guest.
[01:06] So psychic medium Sean Martin is an intuitive guide and a spiritual mentor with over two decades of experience helping people unlock clarity, purpose and peace.
[01:16] He’s known for his uncanny accuracy and grounded wisdom. At least that’s my experience with him when I, when I spent some time with him recently in a circle at a studio in downtown Hamilton, Ontario.
[01:27] Sean combines psychic insight with practical advice to guide clients, both business and personal, through the biggest questions that they have.
[01:36] So whether you’re seeking connection with loved ones who’ve passed clarity on your life path, or a deeper spiritual awakening, Sean Martin offers a compassionate and empowering experience rooted in trust and truth.
[01:48] And he’s here with us today.
[01:50] So, Sean, welcome. Welcome to Woo Biz.
[01:53]
Shawn Martin:
Thank you. Thanks for having me on.
[01:55]
Andy Walker:
It’s nice to see your face.
[01:57] Sean and I had spent a little bit of time together. We had lunch the other week and got to know each other a bit more. So I said, come on the show, you know, and really excited to explore this world of channeling.
[02:09] So let’s start there. So you would define yourself. I mean, you’re a psychic medium. I suppose that’s the most common term.
[02:16] But you’re really a channeler, right? It’s not like you,
[02:19] you’re connecting to something else. Can you explain to me what your, what your process is? What does channeling mean?
[02:25]
Shawn Martin:
Yeah, I’ve had some trouble coming up with the exact term for what I do because it’s so broad and depending on the situation and the circumstances, different things happen.
[02:35] So I do like the word channeler because what I’m doing is channeling information from a source to the person who’s seeking the information.
[02:44] And for me, it’s a very direct process. I don’t know why that is. I can’t explain why it is.
[02:49] Call it a talent or a skill,
[02:51] but the information comes through very clear for me,
[02:54] almost in a conversation style.
[02:56] So I can have individuals who are really conversing with the source of the information.
[03:02] And I can’t define exactly what the source is because it depends on the situation.
[03:06] The source will identify itself.
[03:09] It can be something as clear as a deceased relative,
[03:13] where the individual knows who we’re talking about and actually talking with.
[03:19] Or the source could be more, I would say, esoteric, where it’s like your higher self or a council. Sometimes it’s even extraterrestrial. I’ll get.
[03:27]
Andy Walker:
Right.
[03:29]
Shawn Martin:
And so it depends on the individual.
[03:31]
Andy Walker:
Is it. Okay. It depends on the individual that you’re reading for, who’s sitting for you, I guess. Right.
[03:36] So in your.
[03:38] In your mind space, then you’re connecting. Do you hear a voice and you basically repeat what the voice is saying? Or do you get a feeling? What’s the.
[03:47] What’s the actual mechanism in your head?
[03:51]
Shawn Martin:
Right. Because people have asked me that before if I’m hearing voices. And I wouldn’t say that’s the way it goes.
[03:57] It’s as if I’m talking for the source.
[04:01] So there’s no delay between the information coming in and the information that I give.
[04:06] It’s as if they’re using me to speak their words.
[04:09]
Andy Walker:
Right.
[04:10]
Shawn Martin:
And I don’t play a part in it.
[04:14] Like, I. I just allow it to go through and I just convey the message.
[04:19] Right back and forth. I do that back and forth from the person to the source and the source to the person.
[04:24]
Andy Walker:
I see. I see. Okay.
[04:26] And so when did this skill.
[04:29] I call them like a. I call them woo skills. Right.
[04:32] This is a very profound woo skill that you have.
[04:35] So when did this. Like, is this something that happened in. In late life, in. In when you were a child? When. When. What happened at the beginning, when it first started to happen?
[04:45]
Shawn Martin:
Well, it. It began about 12, maybe a dozen years ago where I was with my mother. She was complaining of pains,
[04:54] and I had inspiration. Again, it wasn’t voices. It was just a feeling. Like, if I was to just put my hands above the area of pain, it was her. It was her knee,
[05:02] that the pain would subside. And it did.
[05:05] And I couldn’t explain it. And I had never heard of any kind of energy healing before in my life.
[05:10] So right away, I went online and typed in energy healing,
[05:15] or healing with your hands above a spot. And the word Reiki came up.
[05:21] And then I investigated what Reiki was,
[05:23] is.
[05:24] And then further down the road, I decided to take courses. I took all of the levels. I’m now a master teacher of Reiki,
[05:32] and I use it from time to time, use it mainly for myself and friends, the occasional client as well.
[05:39] But then not long after that,
[05:41] again, another just inspiration. I can’t explain why, but I felt I could just do automatic writing,
[05:47] that I should do something with this.
[05:50] So there was automatic writing where messages would come through. It’s rather like I just explained with me,
[05:56] channeling information verbally. Well, this is just channeling information. As I write,
[06:00] I’m not thinking of what I’m writing. I just write what I’m getting.
[06:05] And actually, I attended a spiritualist church, not as a. A regular person going to the church. I went with friends,
[06:12] and I did this twice. And on both occasions, I was centered out in the congregation, I guess that’s the word by the person leading the service. And I was. So they give messages to individuals.
[06:23] Not everybody, because it’s, you know, a couple hundred people or maybe 100 people.
[06:27] Both times I was picked, and both times I was told,
[06:31] get on the books. You need to write those books.
[06:34] Which was kind of freaky to me because I was thinking with this gift of automatic writing, I should actually create some books.
[06:42] But I was putting it off.
[06:44]
Andy Walker:
Right?
[06:45]
Shawn Martin:
Yeah. And then this person reminded me of the message this person got for me was, get on those. You need to write those books.
[06:52]
Andy Walker:
Right, Right. Interesting. And so then is. And this is.
[06:55]
Shawn Martin:
Which I ended up.
[06:57]
Andy Walker:
You ended up writing. You’ve got two books, right. One’s called Our Gift and what’s Here And. And the other one is. And so tell me a bit about that one first.
[07:07]
Shawn Martin:
Which one? Our Gift.
[07:08]
Andy Walker:
Mm.
[07:10]
Shawn Martin:
Yeah.
[07:11] That was the first book. It’s short. Very short chapters, but I find it’s very dense, very profound. And I was told this book is a gift from.
[07:19] And I said. So I asked, what is the source of this information? I was told the Arcturian High Council.
[07:25]
Andy Walker:
Okay.
[07:25]
Shawn Martin:
Of which I am a member. I guess my higher self might be a member of this council.
[07:29] And I can’t explain how this works.
[07:32] I don’t. I can’t explain their.
[07:34] Their systems. I guess I could investigate it and then provide more information if someone wanted. I just went with what the. What they said they were.
[07:42] And so I wrote this book, and it’s about how the third dimension on Earth operates.
[07:47] And it’s an eclectic mix of how does time operate,
[07:51] what is money,
[07:52] political figures came through,
[07:54] how we manifest.
[07:56] And it’s full of a lot of analogies because the material is new and dense.
[08:01] And I kept saying to them in my mind,
[08:03] you gotta provide examples because the average person’s just gonna read this and think, I’m not getting it.
[08:09] So it’s also full of a lot of analogies to further explain the points they made.
[08:14]
Andy Walker:
Very good. Okay.
[08:15]
Shawn Martin:
I mean it’s a short book, short chapters, it’s an easy read, but it’s.
[08:19]
Andy Walker:
Dense and it’s currently available on Amazon. Right. Anybody can buy this or is this a personal thing?
[08:24]
Shawn Martin:
No, I actually self published on Amazon both of the books.
[08:27]
Andy Walker:
Very good. Okay, so our gift on Amazon, you can find it and it’s under. You wrote initially under a pseudonym, right?
[08:34]
Shawn Martin:
I did. I used my middle name as my first name, which is Matthew. So the book’s published under Matthew Martin.
[08:41]
Andy Walker:
And tell me why you did, why did you do that? Why did you do that?
[08:45]
Shawn Martin:
Well,
[08:45] as we know this Woo gift isn’t received well by everybody.
[08:52] And at the time I was an elementary school teacher. I didn’t want to be very public about any of this information that I was getting and what I could do.
[09:01] It was just easier to keep it not public. So I just used my middle name.
[09:09]
Andy Walker:
So like a pen name of some sort, right?
[09:12]
Shawn Martin:
Exactly. But it is my name. You know, I didn’t, I didn’t, I didn’t make up a name.
[09:17]
Andy Walker:
Fair enough. That’s very good. Okay,
[09:18] so, okay, so our gift by matthewmartin on Amazon.com so I just want to point that out. So people are interested in going, grabbing that they can do that. Good. Okay, so we introduce you as a channeler and a psychic medium.
[09:30] Obviously people are very interested in people like you because perhaps they want to develop their own skills or maybe they want to go to a channel or go to a psychic medium.
[09:40] So talk to me a bit about channeling as it pertains to say, entrepreneurs, business people and innovators. People like that. So I guess there’s two functionalities. One is to learn it yourself and maybe we’ll do an exercise in a bit on how to get started with that.
[09:54] But second of all,
[09:56] like what kind of information if I decide to say go to you,
[10:00] because you do online,
[10:02] you do online readings, right? As well as stuff that’s in person.
[10:07] So tell me, how do I prepare or what kind of information can I get if I’m in a business and I want to Develop my business. Is it useful for me to come to somebody like you?
[10:19]
Shawn Martin:
I think it would be very useful because the information I get is always pertinent to whatever our goal is. A person in business always has goals. Looking for maybe weaknesses, looking for strengths, looking for opportunities.
[10:32] Opportunities.
[10:33] And that’s the kind of messaging I would provide.
[10:36] Like it would be the most relevant information that that person or that group of people need to hear related to the business.
[10:44] If the messages were more personal, you know, as if it was a person coming in and wanted to just know about themselves, the individual,
[10:52] that can be done as well. But that could be very interesting and very important as well. Especially if it’s a sole entrepreneur knowing more about what their path is, what they’re not seeing, what the person strengths and weaknesses in a group.
[11:07] You may not want that personal information being shared with others.
[11:12] But I still think that the personal reading would be relevant because business is personal. These are individuals who make decisions,
[11:20] have blind spots,
[11:21] have their strengths and weaknesses. And I think an open minded individual would be open to information that they may apply to their business.
[11:32]
Andy Walker:
So could you see trends, could you see issues with potentially the business and what somebody may be struggling with, things like that and provide solutions for it.
[11:46]
Shawn Martin:
So keep in mind that what I do is I channel the information.
[11:50] I don’t have an mba. I’m not going to be the one providing strengths and weaknesses of the business and opportunities or missed opportunities.
[11:57] What’s going to come through me is going to be other information upon which you would use business skills to apply that information. I’m trying to think of an example how it would go.
[12:06] But the business information would be related to what the person’s not seeing.
[12:14] I would be providing more clarity.
[12:18] Things that they’re not seeing is really what we’re dealing with. And I think when it comes to business, it’s all about opportunities.
[12:24] And if a business is not doing as well as an individual or group of individuals would like,
[12:30] then they want to know what is, what is the break, what’s the anchor on our business.
[12:35] So it’s very possible, of course I can’t guarantee, but we would work at it to get the information.
[12:40] What are the anchors? What’s dragging us down as well, I would say here’s some areas of your business that are doing very well and in some ways you could capitalize more on this.
[12:53] It’s really about giving clarity to a lot of aspects related to the business.
[13:02] And as I said earlier,
[13:03] the individual readings for the business,
[13:06] those involved in the business would probably be Very helpful because they would see what’s holding them back or opportunities that they’re not seeing that they may choose not to share with other partners in the business or employees, obviously, because it would be very personal information.
[13:24] But that information they could then apply to their life, including how they do business.
[13:28]
Andy Walker:
I see. Okay, very good. What about somebody like an entrepreneur who’s sort of considering a way forward, like they’re thinking about maybe creating an AI platform or they have a service or something like that that they’re, you know, they were in the planning stages of it would.
[13:41] Would this be of use for them?
[13:45]
Shawn Martin:
I think for sure it would.
[13:47] Because again, it would be saying the information coming through would be the most relevant,
[13:51] that which their higher self or others want them to know.
[13:58] It could also involve timelines involving what could be coming down down the timeline or what they’re doing that is slowing down the manifesting of what they want to achieve.
[14:09] It also would provide information on what they’re doing. Well,
[14:13] focus more on these areas because this is how you’re going to be more efficient. I often use the word efficient with people.
[14:19] Whether it’s a personal reading or if it was something dealing with an organization or a business or a plan of some kind,
[14:25] you can get there in a multitude of ways.
[14:28] Most people want things to be efficient if they really want it.
[14:33] Unless they’re actually getting in their own way to slow down something and they’re not seeing it. The information coming through could be exactly that. This is what you’re doing to slow down the manifesting of what you really want.
[14:47] And these are just examples. I can never predict what the information will be.
[14:52] I never can tell you what it will be. But I can tell you that we do really conversation style.
[14:59] So any questions that the individual has for clarification or information they need, we can try to get from that source or other sources that wish to come through.
[15:07]
Andy Walker:
So when you say and I want to sort of circle back there, use a term that maybe not everybody might be familiar with. The higher self. What is the higher self?
[15:14]
Shawn Martin:
The way I picture it and the way my book describes it. I shouldn’t say my book because again,
[15:19] not my information that came through me, but the books describe it as.
[15:25] It’s like branches off of a tree.
[15:28] And, and this,
[15:30] it’s not a great analogy, but the twig is connected to the branch, the branch is connected to the trunk.
[15:37] It’s all connected. So the twig is not separate or the leaf at the end is not separate from the tree. It’s all Part of the same thing.
[15:45] Think of the higher self as further along, closer to this, the tree itself, to.
[15:49] To the.
[15:50] The trunk. We’re not individual, we’re not separate. We’re not in our own little pods, separate from our larger manifestation of what we are.
[16:01] So the information that. When I say higher self, I’m talking about the larger you,
[16:07] not the little you who’s sitting in the chair in front of me. The leaf comes to me, but we’re getting information from the twig or the. Or the branch or the trunk further up,
[16:18] further,
[16:19] closer to the source of where it all starts.
[16:21]
Andy Walker:
Right.
[16:22] So in my case, then my higher self would be my spiritual source.
[16:29] And there’d be a tendril or a twig here in this 3D incarnation called Andy,
[16:35] and that would be the twig or the leaf.
[16:39] But really, I’m rooted in the divine.
[16:43] The trunk is out there, and that’s sort of all of me.
[16:48] Would that be the case?
[16:49]
Shawn Martin:
Yeah, that’s exactly right. But the trunk is all of us.
[16:53] Think about it.
[16:54] I mean, if you take it on a global level, or even universal,
[16:59] you have to think of it almost in infinite terms.
[17:02] My analogy was very simple. We’re talking about three or four things, but I imagine that when it involves the whole of creation, we’re talking almost of infinite dimension.
[17:13] But to keep it simple for, you know, the person sitting in the chair getting the reading,
[17:19] it’s. It’s just the bigger you, it’s the. It’s the fuller you, it’s the more extensive you speaking to.
[17:26] Part of its. I like. I like to use the word individuation.
[17:30] It’s not a real word, but it kind of describes what I’m saying. You’re not an individual, you’re an individuation of your soul.
[17:38]
Andy Walker:
I see, I see.
[17:39]
Shawn Martin:
You’re not separate.
[17:40] You appear separate within this dimension to do what we need to do.
[17:46] Kind of like an avatar in a video game, but much more connected. The actual player,
[17:50] the player of the video game,
[17:52] an essence of that player is in the video game.
[17:56] You can think of it that way.
[17:57]
Andy Walker:
So in the human heart, the human incarnation is the evidence.
[18:03]
Shawn Martin:
Human incarnation, the physical.
[18:06] Yeah, the bones and flesh is the avatar. I see the video game player playing the avatar is watching the scene.
[18:17] And that individual manifestation of energy, whatever you want to call it,
[18:22] knows the game’s rules and directs the avatar.
[18:27] And just like a video game keeps the avatar out of danger.
[18:33] That’s what our higher self will do. So the information I provide is coming from that quote, video game Player to the avatar giving very direct information as if you’re playing a video game and you can speak to your player on the screen.
[18:49]
Andy Walker:
Okay, got it. Very good. So could again just in an algorithm. No, no, I think it’s. I think it’s really. I mean this is complex, right? Like the spiritual and the divine and all of these wood concepts are fairly complex.
[19:01] So I think we have to do a dumbing down of the terms just to kind of grasp them. You know what I mean?
[19:10] It’s not never going to be perfect. And I don’t think we will ever really truly know. And maybe until we go on the other side at the end of our life, this incarnation of this 3D experience.
[19:19] Right?
[19:21] Yeah.
[19:23]
Shawn Martin:
Our higher self knows.
[19:25]
Andy Walker:
Our higher self knows. What does it know exactly? What does it know about our business? What does it know about our life? Does it know our purpose? Those kinds of things.
[19:33]
Shawn Martin:
I think before you,
[19:35] your avatar, you and me, we get into this game,
[19:38] there’s a plan.
[19:40] It’s not just random.
[19:42] I’m not saying that the entire life is scripted, but there’s a life plan. So if a person is getting into a business and they’re really inspired to do this,
[19:50] that’s part of the plan.
[19:52] And unless the person on purposely doesn’t take advantage of the opportunities that come their way over and over,
[20:03] the business will occur. It’ll happen.
[20:06] The thing that stops people is ignoring the opportunities out of not seeing it.
[20:12] Although I think the av. Sorry, the. The higher self will bring those opportunities again and again in different ways. If, if the person’s not recognizing the opportunities.
[20:22] Laziness,
[20:23] just not doing anything with it.
[20:25] Again, think about the video game play like the player in the game. If that player doesn’t do anything with the opportunities that come its way in the game,
[20:34] nothing happens. It just sits there.
[20:37] It’s like that.
[20:39] So if you are motivated to accomplish something and it’s in your life plan, probably it would be because you’re getting the motivation to do something.
[20:48] We say the universe will bring forth the tools needed to move along the path to accomplish something.
[20:54] But if you ignore those tools or self sabotage, then it won’t manifest.
[21:03]
Andy Walker:
Right, Understood.
[21:04] Could we do a little exercise here? Well, before we jump in, I want to do a little. I want to give the listener a little exercise to help them maybe learn a little the basics of channeling.
[21:13] But before we do that,
[21:14] I’m wondering could we tune into your guides and maybe ask them a few questions about maybe my business incarnate or my business or my like Talk to my higher self about my maybe business purpose is.
[21:26] Would that. Would that be a valid thing to do?
[21:30]
Shawn Martin:
Sure, we can absolutely do that. And actually would be an example of what it would be like if someone were to do this with me.
[21:38]
Andy Walker:
Okay, but.
[21:41]
Shawn Martin:
Well, I’ll just start to. I’ll just bring the messages forward.
[21:44]
Andy Walker:
Okay, great.
[21:46]
Shawn Martin:
But then later on, I don’t know, once we see what they say, you might decide to share some of it or all of it or none of it, depending on how personal it is.
[21:54] Right.
[21:54]
Andy Walker:
All right. We’re not gonna be talking about, like, my weird.
[21:56]
Shawn Martin:
Like.
[21:57]
Andy Walker:
Like the weird desserts I like to eat or anything like that. Right.
[22:01]
Shawn Martin:
That wouldn’t be relevant.
[22:03]
Andy Walker:
Okay. All right, let’s do it.
[22:05]
Shawn Martin:
So I could just begin. Okay.
[22:07] So it’s always like this. It’s like. So tell Andy that he’s absolutely on track. I often like to close my eyes because then I can really get my. Get myself out of the way.
[22:19] Tell Andy he’s absolutely on the right path.
[22:22] He’s doing what he needs to do to move along this path. He’s seeing the opportunities.
[22:27] And we don’t mean to be judgy here, but he’s finally, as you spoke to earlier, Sean,
[22:33] he’s taking the tools that are being presented in front of him and using them now. We will say, though, there are times when the tools or that which appears to be a tool is on purposely avoided.
[22:46] You don’t pick it up and use it because there’s better tools down the road.
[22:51] And that’s what Andy’s gone through the last few years. He’s had tools, and by tools, we mean opportunities that he could have taken. But had he used those tools, he would have gone.
[23:00] He would have veered off onto another path,
[23:03] still on his life path.
[23:05] But his chosen experience, what he really wanted to do now was what he’s doing now because he chose the tools later down the timeline,
[23:15] that we’re going to get him to where he is now.
[23:18] And we’re not going to make this a long message because we realize you’re doing this recording for other people. But we’ll simply say to Andy as a reassurance, you’re now picking up the tools.
[23:27] You will continue to pick up the tools because the tools you have in front of you now are the ones that are going to get you to where you want to go.
[23:33] So this will be much easier for you and much more satisfactory. And this is what happens when you start picking up the tools that get you to where you want to go.
[23:40] Things manifest quickly. And you have drive. You know, you got the wind, the wind underneath your wings. And things move along, as Sean said, efficiently.
[23:48] That’s where Andy is right now. Well, stop channeling right now unless you have specific questions.
[23:53]
Andy Walker:
No, that’s great. That’s a really good demonstration. I see.
[23:57] So basically what they’re saying, and this is your guides, or this is my higher self. Who are you actually speaking to, Sean?
[24:05]
Shawn Martin:
So the analogy.
[24:07] It’s not even an analogy. How I see it is like the shape of a staple you put into paper.
[24:13] Your higher guides come across and speak to my higher guides and give me the information.
[24:20] My higher guides have told me they’re like a filter to protect me from energies that may not be positive or in my best interest.
[24:30] So rather than me channeling directly from your guides through me, their information comes through my guides. Kind of like the two video game players on the other side are working it out.
[24:41] And then you and me, as the characters in the game,
[24:45] take our lead from that.
[24:48] I don’t get the commands from your higher guides.
[24:51] There’s like a connection up there, you know, above us.
[24:54]
Andy Walker:
So I love that. And so you do readings for business people and for personal people, too. And we’ll put the connection in for people to book you into the show notes in case they’re interested.
[25:04] But so let’s. Let’s move on, though. Let’s talk about. Cause I think this is something that some, Almost anybody, can learn. Perhaps not as profoundly as your gift,
[25:14] but we certainly can to learn to channel a little bit. Is that right?
[25:18]
Shawn Martin:
I really think channeling is taking your gut feeling to a much larger level.
[25:24] So it’s difficult for me to explain how to do it because sometimes things just are easy and you can’t explain how you’re doing it.
[25:33] But the best thing I can say about it would be when you’re having those aha Moments and the information just comes to you out of nowhere.
[25:41] That’s what I do. But I do that through communication.
[25:46] Like, I just showed you how it. How it works.
[25:50] So to explain to a person how to get their aha moments and control them is challenging because these things just come out of the blue.
[26:00] We say they come out of the blue, but really they’re coming out of your higher self.
[26:05] Often, if you think about your life, when you finally relax,
[26:10] get out of your way,
[26:12] some people say, go into, like, a meditation. I just say, relax.
[26:16] Stop the worrying. Stop the anxiety, even for a while.
[26:20] You’ll get inspiration that comes to you to assist you.
[26:24] If you can again, if you can just get out of your way and listen quietly.
[26:29] This is what I do. And I don’t know that it’s much different than what another person would do.
[26:35] Getting out of the way. One of the things that Reiki teaches you when you deliver this healing energy is you need to be bamboo. That’s the analogy a lot of these Reiki books will give you.
[26:44] You want to be out of your way so that the Reiki energy goes through you directly and you’re not influencing at all.
[26:51] You would never say, I’m going to heal you, because that would be the ego. That would be like Sean saying, oh, I can heal you.
[26:58] No, that’s not how it works. I allow the energy to go through for your higher purpose, whatever that is. The information I give is the same thing.
[27:08] I am not influencing the information that comes through at all.
[27:12] I get completely out of the way. Like I do with Reiki.
[27:16] The individual who wants to do this has to do the same thing for themselves.
[27:20] You need to get your ego out of the way and just be as neutral as possible.
[27:25] And then you’ll get inspiration.
[27:27]
Andy Walker:
So take me through just simple step by step. So if I wanted to try this out myself, I think you mentioned automatic writing.
[27:35] Is this. Let’s. Let’s do like a little, like exercise, not live, but just take me through the step by step. So I’m gonna sit on the couch in a quiet room, gonna get settled, right?
[27:44] Do any. I guess I need a pad and a paper to do any kind. Something like this.
[27:49]
Shawn Martin:
That’s exactly right.
[27:51] I use like a pad with like a hard surface.
[27:54] I sit in a comfortable chair or on my bed with the pillows back behind me.
[28:01] And then you just allow.
[28:04] Again, I can’t explain why I can do it so well and so easily and so automatically, but I would, I would advise a person who wants to do this to set the mood before they begin.
[28:17] Meaning, what’s your intention?
[28:19] Get out of your way. Be very comfortable. No distractions.
[28:23] You don’t want any distractions, you want to be comfortable,
[28:26] and then you just want to let it flow. And I think one thing that could get into people’s way would be fear.
[28:33] And I imagine that that applies to a lot of things. You know, fear is the thing that, that holds us back from making a lot of progress.
[28:41] If you start getting information and you start seeing that this is working for you, and right away you get scared,
[28:48] it’ll stop. Because fear is a low vibration entity that doesn’t allow for the higher woo to operate properly.
[28:59] It’s a break on it.
[29:01] So once you start getting information through,
[29:04] just. You have to completely allow it and don’t have any judgment.
[29:09] That would be my advice.
[29:11] But if you get fear going into there and you think, oh my gosh, I don’t know what’s just happened,
[29:16] that’ll likely shut it down.
[29:20] Same with anything in the woo.
[29:23] If I’m doing Reiki and right away I’m like, oh, my gosh, I’m so scared.
[29:27] I don’t think it’s gonna work because you’re not allowing.
[29:30] You’re blocking when you do that.
[29:33] I think it’s a very natural skill.
[29:35] And what makes it unnatural is because most people are either in anxiety or fear or distraction or disbelief.
[29:45] And all those things work against the,
[29:49] the simplicity of what this really is.
[29:52] It’s just bringing information forward.
[29:55]
Andy Walker:
Right, so then that’s the best way.
[29:57]
Shawn Martin:
I could describe it.
[29:58]
Andy Walker:
Yeah, no,
[29:59] that’s really helpful. So I’m going to prepare, I’m going to get comfortable, I’m going to sit,
[30:04] I’m going to have a pad of paper.
[30:06] I’m going to get relaxed and get out of my head, get out of my ego and just go to get into a relaxed state. However,
[30:15] I can do that. Right. However, what’s the best. Whatever. The best ways for me?
[30:18]
Shawn Martin:
Whatever works.
[30:19]
Andy Walker:
Whatever works. Right.
[30:21] Okay. And then I’m gonna put the pen on the paper and then I’m just gonna. Whatever comes to me, I’m just gonna write. Is that, Is that sort of the standard next step?
[30:31]
Shawn Martin:
Absolutely.
[30:33] You’re just allowing the messages to come through.
[30:35] You know, you could maybe even do it on a keyboard if you’re really good at typing. I, I don’t, I don’t like that method, but I can do that.
[30:42] I would say the average person or,
[30:44] yeah, the individual who’s new to this would probably start by just using, like, their hand.
[30:50] But it could be the case that a keyboard would actually be fine.
[30:54] I mean, whether it’s a keyboard or you’re writing or you’re speaking,
[30:58] it’s really all the same thing. It’s communication just in different ways.
[31:04] But going back to, like, what you’re kind of asking about,
[31:08] you would do all those things you said,
[31:10] and you would simply allow anything to come through.
[31:15]
Andy Walker:
So what can I expect?
[31:16]
Shawn Martin:
No expectations.
[31:18]
Andy Walker:
So no expectations at all. Just clear your head and see what shows up. And it could be something as simple as a.
[31:23] Like, just like, like messages. Like today you should think about or, you know, whatever the words that come out.
[31:31]
Shawn Martin:
Yeah, anything,
[31:33] even.
[31:33] And this Happens often to me where I start writing something and then I get in my way and I look at it and I think, this makes absolutely no sense where you’re going with this.
[31:43] That slows down the process.
[31:46] But it’s happened many times, especially when I was writing these. These books about how time operates and how we manifest in third dimension and so many topics.
[31:56] I will start writing sentences, and I’ll be thinking, where is this going?
[32:00] Or the start of a chapter,
[32:02] they’ll start using words. And I just think,
[32:05] oh, boy, I think I’m losing it. This gift is going. Because this makes absolutely no sense. But once I get out of my way and just. Just go with it and allow it, then it comes clear.
[32:14] And the same thing happens when I do the channeling verbally.
[32:18] I’ll say to the person that I’m providing the service for right now, I’m getting information that makes absolutely no sense to me, but I’m just going to give it to you.
[32:28] So again, getting back to what you were saying,
[32:30] you have to just let it come through, whatever it is, and don’t judge it,
[32:35] because there will be times when information comes through, words will come through, and you’ll think there’s no way that’s what’s. That’s what they’re saying.
[32:42]
Andy Walker:
I see.
[32:43]
Shawn Martin:
But it’s exactly what they want to say.
[32:45] And then later, down, a few sentences down, you know, whether it’s writing or speaking,
[32:50] it becomes clear.
[32:53] That’s been my experience.
[32:54]
Andy Walker:
So how long should I, like, sit there and do this? Like. Or should I just do it until it stops? Or, like, does it come in drips? Does it come in a flow?
[33:02] Is there a particular predetermined amount of time that it occurs?
[33:06] Give me sort of a sense of the structure of it. Like, when do I stop?
[33:09]
Shawn Martin:
I stop when they tell me to stop. So when I was doing the books, I would get a message saying,
[33:15] we know you’re getting tired. We’re going to end this soon, and then we’ll pick it up later. I would say, if you’re new to this,
[33:22] just have a completely open mind and see what happens. Because each person has their own skills and their own connections.
[33:28] So on the. When you first begin this, I would say just have a completely open mind and see what comes through. And it may not be very much and then come back to it.
[33:36] But the most important thing is to simply allow it to happen.
[33:41] That. That’s the thing. You cannot judge it.
[33:44] You can’t fear it. You can’t. I mean, I guess you could love it if you want to, but you can’t use any low vibration sentiments towards it because it won’t work.
[33:53] No, fear’s the worst. Fear is like very low.
[33:55] It stops everything.
[33:57]
Andy Walker:
Right.
[33:57]
Shawn Martin:
I mean, it serves a role,
[33:59] you know, it’s a protective emotion. If you have no fear, you probably won’t live a long life. But,
[34:05] but you can’t apply it to everything,
[34:08] right. That, that creates anxiety.
[34:10]
Andy Walker:
Very good.
[34:11]
Shawn Martin:
Yeah. The other thing I was going to say with Reiki was just, just another to relate it to where I got the Reiki from.
[34:19] I won’t give Reiki to a person who says it doesn’t work.
[34:23] Right. I won’t give messages, I won’t try to give messages to a person who says this is all nonsense and I don’t believe any of it. And it just makes no sense.
[34:30] I don’t believe it because their energy is blocking mine.
[34:34] What is the point?
[34:35] Right.
[34:37] At the very least, you have to be neutral and you can love it and believe in it all you want, but if you block it through, I don’t believe it’s real,
[34:45] then why would you do it?
[34:47] So you have to sit there with the intention.
[34:49] This is real.
[34:50] Yeah,
[34:51] I, I mean, neutral is the very lowest.
[34:54]
Andy Walker:
Yeah. And I, I totally get that. And, and I think that with any of this stuff and, you know, I, I, whether it’s,
[35:00] you know, remote viewing or using your intuition or you want to manifest a ghost or connect to, I don’t know, your higher self, if you don’t believe any of it, then it’s not going to work.
[35:10] Right. That’s kind of the instantaneous stop pause button. Stop button, right?
[35:15]
Shawn Martin:
That’s right.
[35:15]
Andy Walker:
I’ll pull this, this exercise together with Step by Step and we’ll pop it in the show notes so people can kind of get a copy of it and go through it, I do want to dig into it a little bit deeper here and we’ll do that in the Woo Biz plus members Only segment in a couple of minutes.
[35:31] But let’s just wrap this up here for everybody who’s just watching the free show and remind them again where they can get your book.
[35:38]
Shawn Martin:
Because there’s two books. The first one is our gift Messages from the Arcturian High Council that was published in 2019 on Amazon. Author’s name is Matthew Martin.
[35:51] The second book is after the Great Awakening again by Matthew Martin, and it’s on Amazon.
[35:58] That second book is how our institutions need to change to adapt to the moving up into the higher vibrations that we’re Already in a lot of the things that are going on in the world right now are very confusing.
[36:12] In fact, irritating for a lot of people because they’re so confusing.
[36:16] That’s connected to this increased vibration, this faster vibration of our whole society and getting rid of or letting go of the lower vibration stuff.
[36:29] So this book is a guidebook on how do we make our institutions work at that higher vibration level so they work with integrity and honesty and serving every everyone’s interest.
[36:42]
Andy Walker:
Right. And what’s that book called?
[36:43]
Shawn Martin:
That’s why after the Great Awakening.
[36:45]
Andy Walker:
After the Great Awakening, yeah. Very good.
[36:46]
Shawn Martin:
Because we are in the Great Awakening. This book is a guidebook for after the Awakening.
[36:52]
Andy Walker:
Got it.
[36:52]
Shawn Martin:
So it’s a little bit ahead of its time, but, you know, it’s good to be prepared.
[36:57]
Andy Walker:
That’s right. That’s right.
[36:59] Also sounds useful for anybody who wants to sort of create a conscious or conscious aware business and that sort of thing and what potentially is coming for humanity and you know, in a few years time or in a few decades perhaps.
[37:12] I don’t know when it’s going to come, but we’ll have to jump into that at another time. You think it’s sooner rather than later?
[37:17]
Shawn Martin:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It’s sooner rather than later. And that book would be useful for future planning.
[37:23]
Andy Walker:
So in the show notes we’re going to, we’ll put the exercise, we’ll put a link to where people can book you for personal channeling opportunities.
[37:32] And I know you’ve got in development, in fact, you and I are going to go and meet a business in a couple of weeks time and, and do a reading in the business context too.
[37:41] So I know that we’re going to, eventually you’re going to have an option for people to book you for a half day to, to do kind of a business channeling reading opportunity specifically designed for.
[37:52] For business leaders and their teams potentially. That’s right.
[37:54]
Shawn Martin:
Right. That’s right.
[37:55]
Andy Walker:
Okay.
[37:56]
Shawn Martin:
Yes.
[37:57]
Andy Walker:
All right. Well, Sean Martin, thank you so much for being with us today in this episode. And I’m just going to say we’ll see you next time. And for those who are listening, Sean will be back.
[38:07] We’ll have him back in a few weeks once we’re a little deeper into a few more episodes.
[38:11] Because I think, Sean, there’s so much we could talk about here. It’s just, you know, we could talk for hours and hours, but obviously we only have a limit amount of time in every episode.
[38:19] So thanks for being with us today. For everybody out there, thanks for tuning in and hanging out with us. And for those of you who are members of the Woo Biz community,
[38:28] stay with us because in a few short seconds we’ll be flipping over into a deeper dive into channeling with Sean Martin. But that’s it for now for me. Thanks for listening and we’ll see you next time.
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