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Show Notes
Timing isn’t just about calendars and deadlines—it can also be about aligning with cosmic cycles. In this episode of Woo Biz, Andy Walker sits down with astrology consultant, wellness advisor, and author Stephanie Gailing to explore how lunar phases can guide business decisions, from launching a product to hiring a new executive.
Stephanie shares insights from more than 20 years of practice as an astrologer, dream worker, and family constellations facilitator. She explains how understanding the moon’s eight phases can help leaders choose the right moments to act, reflect, share, or let go—whether in business growth, partnerships, or creative endeavors.
Listeners will learn:
- How personal and business “birth charts” can inform decision-making
- Why different lunar phases are ideal for launches, contracts, or retreats
- How ancient practices like medical astrology and lunar planting cycles still apply today
- Practical tips for using free online tools like Astro Seek’s Moon Calendar to sync with lunar timing
WooBiz+ Segment:
Stephanie stays on with Andy to examine eclipses (and what not to do and what you could do during them). The next one is in February 2026. She also examines look at Mercury retrograde (it will be a big deal in Nov. 2025). Also find out when is the best time to beta test a product or service. Stephanie also shares a hack one really awesome thing you can do during a Mercury retrograde to access the depths of your unconscious mind.
For extended WooBiz episodes and bonus content, visit https://patreon.com/woobizplus
About Stephanie Gailing
Stephanie Gailing is a life guide, astrologer, and author with more than 25 years of experience. Her unique approach weaves together compassion-based coaching, wellness strategies, dreamwork, and astrological insights to provide her clients with stellar life guidance.
Since the 2009 publication of her book Planetary Apothecary, Stephanie has become a pioneer in the field of wellness astrology. Her work further deepened in 2012 when she began exploring sleep sanctification and dreamwork, incorporating this transformative realm of self-care into her client and education work.
Her work has been featured in Well + Good, Refinery 29, Bustle, Seattle Times, and other outlets. Stephanie holds a Certificate in EcoPsychology (Pacifica University), Advanced Diploma in Coaching (New York University), and an MS in Nutrition (Bastyr University). She lives in Seattle with her husband, Sebastiano.
Additional Resources
Here are some extra resources provided by Stephanie:
Stephanie’s Website
Contact Stephanie and learn about her work, consulting and books: https://stephaniegailing.com
Moon Phase Calendar: The Lunation Cycle
Use this webpage to discover current and future moon phases. Click “Change to your local timezone” and enter your location; the calendar will then display the Moon’s phase. Scroll down and you’ll discover its placements for other days that month, or click on the month or year links featured at the top of the page to move forward or back in time.
Working with the Moon: The Twelve Signs
A guide to accessing greater flow in your writing and creative practice: Click here
Stellar Insights
Substack newsletter filled with inspirations for navigating the moment: Stellar Insights
Butterflyhaikus
Substack newsletter focused on astrology, self-care and reflective practices to enhance your writing and creative life. Butterflyhaikus
Stephanie’s Books
Amazon page featuring all of Stephanie’s books:
- All books
- The Complete Guide to Living By the Moon
- The Complete Guide to Astrological Self-Care
- The Complete Book of Dreams
Contact
Send Stephanie a note and/or inquire about setting up a complementary call to discuss how her services can support you personally or professionally.
Moon Phases by Business Activity
Determine the current moon phase using Astro-Seek.com and reference the table below to determine recommended business activities.
| Moon Phase | Business Activities |
|---|---|
| Waxing Gibbous | Pre-maturity development of ideas. Refine, test, polish, adjust strategies before launch. |
| Full Moon | Launch products, make announcements, host events, close deals, celebrate milestones. |
| Disseminating Moon | Share knowledge, publish content, expand marketing reach, strengthen client relationships. |
| Last Quarter Moon | Evaluate progress, review performance, identify what to release or pivot from. |
| Balsamic Moon | Rest, reflect, strategic planning, visioning, journaling, clear out old tasks. Do not launch anything. |
| New Moon | Set intentions, brainstorm, plan projects, outline goals, begin quiet development. Examine what’s next. |
| Waxing Crescent | Refine ideas. Take first steps on new initiatives, networking, research, pitching ideas. |
| First Quarter Moon | Push forward decisively, problem-solve, make important decisions, tackle obstacles. Refine ideas further. |
Transcript
[00:00] Andy Walker: There’s an old saying that timing is everything in business.
[00:03] So what if you could sync your launch deal or big hire with the energy of the moon?
[00:10] Astrology consultant Stephanie Gehling shows us how choosing the right phase can boost success.
[00:16] That’s today on Woo Biz.
[00:39] Today’s guest is Stephanie Galing, an astrology advisor, self care consultant, and Family constellations facilitator with more than 20 years of experience.
[00:49] She’s the author of seven books, including Planetary Apothecary, the Complete Book of Dreams, and the Stellar Visions Oracle Deck.
[00:58] Stephanie also co hosts the so Divine podcast, which I listened to recently and it’s great. Gotta go check that out. And her work has been featured in Vogue well and Good and mindbody Green.
[01:09] In addition to her work counseling individuals and organizations, she supports writers and practitioners in the wellness space through editing and writing services.
[01:17] She holds a Master’s of Science in Nutrition from Bastyr University,
[01:21] an advanced diploma in Coaching from New York University,
[01:24] and a certificate of Ecopsychology from Pacifica University.
[01:28] And today, she’s going to share how astrology can help us understand timing in business,
[01:32] whether for product launches, company events, or other key moments so we can align strategically with cosmic cycles for greater impact.
[01:39] So welcome, Stephanie. It’s nice to see you.
[01:42] Stephanie Gailing: Hi, Andy. Thanks for having me here.
[01:44] Andy Walker: You know, you’ve got a heck of a resume there. You do a lot of things and I’m guessing you’re a bit of a mystic.
[01:51] You strike me as somebody doing. There’s a lot of wellness. It’s very spiritual, I think.
[01:56] And of course, there’s the astrology piece, which is really important to you. Tell me about your career. How did you come to do what you do?
[02:03] Stephanie Gailing: Yeah, so my whole career, I mean, from the very beginning, has always been dedicated to being of service, to helping people access the greatest level of well being that they can.
[02:14] Right.
[02:15] And along the way,
[02:17] my understanding of well being kept on expanding. So. So as it did, and I was connected to different orientations.
[02:27] I would study them and I would weave them in together.
[02:31] And so when I was in my early 20s,
[02:34] I discovered astrology. I was going through my own sort of personal crisis at that moment, and I went to an astrologer.
[02:41] All I gave her was my birthday information.
[02:44] And it was the first time in my life that I felt seen and recognized and really reflected to, of helping me to understand myself in a, a deeper, larger way.
[02:55] And I thought at that moment, I need to know this. I, I see it as a language. I need to know this language.
[03:01] For myself, for my own conception of, of life and bigger, the bigger world. And also as another way that I can be of service to the public and to my clients.
[03:13] And so I started to weave astrology in.
[03:16] And you know, then I weaved it into dream work. I weaved it into, with flower essences, I’ve weaved into family constellations. It’s sort of one of the threads that I combine with the other tools and techniques that I use in my practice.
[03:32] Andy Walker: So it sounds like it’s a kind of a complimentary thing that’s built on this foundation of wellness more than it is. I wouldn’t introduce you as Stephanie the astrologer. I would introduce you as Stephanie the wellness person that uses.
[03:43] Astrology is one of the powerful tools to achieve what you do,
[03:47] without question.
[03:48] Stephanie Gailing: And that’s how I also, I mean, sometimes in certain situations it’s sort of easy or it’s what people are looking for in terms of being like, I’m an astrological advisor, but I see astrology as a route to, well, being.
[04:02] Right. And why is that?
[04:03] If we think about it from a personal perspective, and we’re of course going to talk about it in a business context later,
[04:09] you know, from a personal perspective,
[04:11] the more that you understand who you are. Right. Then you can really, really gain access to language to see the unique weft and weave of,
[04:24] of your life.
[04:26] Then you can work your strengths. Right. And then you can actually also address sort of your own challenges.
[04:33] And in that there is incredible amounts of healing,
[04:37] self compassion, self embrace and therefore empowerment.
[04:41] Right. And so that to me, you know, yields a great level of healing.
[04:45] There’s also the healing piece of astrology that’s based on medical astrology, which is also thousands of years old of using astrology to understand greater sense of how to fortify your physical well being,
[04:57] which is something also that I work a bit with.
[05:00] Andy Walker: Well, all those things, you know, are really important. I think if you run a business, right,
[05:05] you are the engine which runs your business.
[05:08] So obviously, obviously the astrological cycles and how they impact you as a human being will have direct parlay into your business. Right.
[05:18] And I think the wellness piece is really important too because obviously a healthy executive, a healthy entrepreneur is an effective executive or entrepreneur too. So it’s really interesting that you’ve sort of taken this tact in your career because it brings in a bunch of really cool things in a very unique kind of way.
[05:36] Stephanie Gailing: Yeah. And you know, we could definitely look at it in terms of,
[05:39] you know, astrology is a tool for understanding Yourself and your wellbeing. Like, for example, like what causes you stress, you know, might be different than what causes me stress. Right.
[05:48] And perhaps then the remedy because of our proclivities is also different.
[05:52] You can use your astrology chart. And when we talk about the astrology chart, we’re talking beyond like I’m a Pisces, you’re a, you know, whatever your sun sign is.
[06:01] Um, you know, and so that actually gives us personalized pathways to both understanding and then finding remediation to fortify our greater sense of well being, you know, let alone in terms of, you know, how astrology connects us to being in the flow of timing.
[06:21] Right. So that we can find pathways of ease, both personally or as organization,
[06:27] as teams, et cetera.
[06:29] Andy Walker: Absolutely. And really that’s the core of our conversation here. Before we get into the timing though, I do want to, I want to ask you a couple of small questions as we go in there.
[06:39] So we’re about to step into. How do you choose the right time, the right date,
[06:44] you know, how are we going to use some astrology tools? You’re going to help us with that. But tell me what, what basic information do I know? Do I need to know?
[06:52] I obviously need to know my birthday, I suppose, which most people do.
[06:56] Um, do you need to know the birthday of your business as well? Like what information do you need before we step into this larger conversation?
[07:03] Stephanie Gailing: Yes. So if you are going to want to look for yourself, right. And your own sense of well being and the cycles in your life, you need your birthday,
[07:13] year,
[07:14] ideally your exact time of birth,
[07:16] city, state, country where you are born. It’s really important in terms of reading the chart in terms of an organization,
[07:24] you know, like people who have birth charts. So does any organization.
[07:29] And so for that you would use, if the business is incorporated,
[07:34] you would use the incorporation date.
[07:38] Sometimes you can tell from say the secretary of state, like a timestamp in terms of time. If not, you would use, you know, 12pm and then you would use the state capitol.
[07:48] Right. Like from where you were getting those incorporation documents. Now there may be other organizations or entrepreneurs that are not incorporated.
[07:56] So in that you would just look at the moment that you began your business.
[08:02] Like I had a client years ago who had a retail store, right. So we timed her,
[08:08] you know, her business chart to the moment of the announcement, which was a party. Right. And I worked on that chart so that we could actually have the best,
[08:17] you know, birth chart, incorporation chart, beginning chart as possible.
[08:20] Andy Walker: Oh, very interesting. And then I, I mean we Kind of use this, this,
[08:24] this last week when we were booking this, this interview, right. Cause you’re like, wow, you know, it’d be better if we did it on Monday because I’ll let you finish that sentence, but,
[08:34] but so you can use it for things like launches of products, podcasts, TV shows, I would imagine, I would imagine any kind of product or service launch and stuff like that.
[08:42] Would that be true?
[08:44] Stephanie Gailing: Without question. Right. You can use it for anything, you know, all the different, you know, stages of development of your business, whether you are offering products, services or both. Right. So it’s, you know, when are we going to start to ideate?
[08:59] You know, when is a good time to test,
[09:02] you know, when’s a good time to launch?
[09:04] When’s a good time to communicate or to share or to broadcast? When’s a good time to just sit back,
[09:14] right. And not necessarily like be in active mode, but be more in digestive mode, assimilation mode, reflective mode. And yes, in terms of, for the podcast, like we were initially going to do it in the dark of the moon right before an eclipse,
[09:29] and now we decided to go on the other side of the new moon eclipse. Right. So new beginnings, you know, when we’re also starting to get move out of that like eclipse sort of obscured energy field.
[09:41] Andy Walker: And, and why do you think this works?
[09:43] That, that may be a, that’s a big question for.
[09:46] We could probably talk for an hour, but I don’t know if you have an easy answer to that one.
[09:53] Stephanie Gailing: You know, I would say this astrology has been a practice that cultures have relied upon,
[10:06] used,
[10:06] integrated for thousands of years. You know, now that’s not to say 3,000 years ago they were talking about their own, like psychodynamics and psychology, right. With, with personal or personal development, with astrology.
[10:17] But it is, it’s been based on sort of the culture and the needs of the culture. It has been a through line,
[10:23] you know, even back in, you know, the Middle Ages and the Renaissance. You know, us doctors were also astrologers, right. They used the cycles.
[10:34] Right. To help in terms of working with, with patients. Right. Or the advising of the kings or whomever. So one, I would say here’s something that has been in use and a core of many societies for millennial.
[10:51] So there’s gotta be something to it. Right? So that doesn’t say like why it works,
[10:55] but the fact that that gives it a solidity and a foundation.
[11:01] Andy Walker: Yeah. It’s not like a fly by night kind of distinction or modality.
[11:06] It’s ancient.
[11:08] And very often I Think we discount things sometimes that are ancient because that was them. They were dumb in the olden days. But it’s not true.
[11:15] This thing, I think it survived wars and cultures and everything over the millennia, and it is still here, we’re still practicing. So I think there’s something to it.
[11:27] Stephanie Gailing: The question is, yes, and right now astrology’s having a moment or a big moment, right? It’s like since the pandemic, there’s been this widespread dissemination of astrology and everybody sort of talk.
[11:39] Not everybody, but a lot of people talking astrology and making its way into pop culture in a greater level, which I see as like a blessing,
[11:47] right. People having more access to this language. And it also could sort of seem like a curse because it is becoming commercialized. Or then people might say, like, oh, it’s just maybe your sun sign can’t be everything.
[11:57] And astrology is more than that. So just to note that in terms.
[12:01] Andy Walker: Of current times,
[12:02] that makes sense. Makes a ton of sense.
[12:04] So let’s step into lunar cycles, because I think that’s at the core of your approach, right? To date based choices around business and that sort of thing. Or for personal reasons, really.
[12:16] So tell me a bit, is there a backstory here that we need to know some context before we step into the how? Because we’ll get to the how in a few minutes.
[12:24] Stephanie Gailing: Yeah. So I think I would answer that two ways. First, really dollying back and sort of speaking in sort of a larger context, both in terms of the moon, but also astrology in and of itself.
[12:36] You know, in terms of when we’re thinking about timing, right. Which is at the core of our conversation here and the applications for businesses and organizations.
[12:44] Is that the way that I sort of like to explain astrology is that,
[12:49] you know, the ancient Greeks, right, had two words for time.
[12:54] One is kronos. That’s pretty much when we think time, we think kronos, right? Like we’ll be talking for 40 minutes and, you know, we met at exit time o’. Clock.
[13:02] It’ll take me five minutes to do this. Right. Quantitative time.
[13:06] But they also had another term called kairos, which is spelled K A I R O S.
[13:12] And kairos is the qualitative notion of time,
[13:19] that every moment has within it an opportunity.
[13:24] Right. A different texture.
[13:26] Andy Walker: Wow.
[13:27] Stephanie Gailing: And so if we can.
[13:28] Isn’t that fun? And so because then, if we can then understand what is the texture of this time,
[13:35] what is the opportunity here,
[13:38] then we can ride those waves, right? We can be in flow with that.
[13:43] And so one of the things that astrology does is that it helps you to understand the kairos. It helps you understand either the larger zeitgeist or the zeitgeist of moments.
[13:54] So just I wanted to sort of put that out there because I think that’s fundamental in terms of understanding astrology, right. And how it does what it does, if you will,
[14:05] in terms of the lunar cycles. And again, we just spoke about, like, what has been practiced for millennia,
[14:11] right? For forever, right? Before we had.
[14:14] We, you know, or our ancestors. Ancestors had watches and clocks or smartphones, right? We needed to tell time, we needed to know cycles, we needed to know when to.
[14:23] And the moon was a timekeeper. You know, moon comes from the same root as the word month,
[14:31] right? Which comes from the word for measurement, right? It was a measurement of time.
[14:38] The moon is. And I love the moon too, when you think about the moon, because it brings together stylicity,
[14:45] right? It’s always changing and then it’s constant because it starts again,
[14:50] right? But they relied upon the moon for really timing activities,
[14:58] you know, even,
[15:00] you know, gardening. There’s even some notions that even back in ancient Greece, Egypt, right, they were planting according to the cycles of the moon.
[15:08] And the thing about the moon is it’s the most accessible.
[15:12] You know, you don’t really need an astrologer, right, to help you work with the moon. You just need an almanac, right, to know, like, when’s the new moon, when’s the quarter moon, When’s the.
[15:21] Right. So. Which I love, because it’s.
[15:24] Everyone should have access to this wisdom, right? And so this is why I think,
[15:28] you know, one, it’s been happening and being relied upon for a long time,
[15:33] and two, it’s accessible to all. To all of us. That’s a winning combination in my book.
[15:37] Andy Walker: Yeah, absolutely. If you think about the seasons and the fact cavemen became agrarian, they started to plant and they stayed in the same place. And so, of course,
[15:47] when you come to planting, you have to think about the seasons and you have to think about the months and the weather and the light and the dark and the temperature and cycles like that.
[15:56] And, you know, if the moon is guiding us, you know, day in, day out, it completely makes sense that this arose from that need.
[16:03] It was natural in the. In the everyday conversation, I would imagine.
[16:07] And, you know, so. So I suspect that. And maybe we’ve moved away from this, but perhaps we need to go back to it when it comes to being a business person, because we’re not farmers anymore, at least many of us Aren’t.
[16:18] And yet we still harvest things. I suppose we still,
[16:23] you know, we’re kind of modern day farmers in a strange kind of way.
[16:27] So it sounds like it’s more important than ever. Right?
[16:30] Stephanie Gailing: I agree. Right. I mean we plant seeds, right. We tend, we harvest.
[16:35] And also to feel, you know, and this goes maybe into a bigger conversation. So I’ll keep it sort of short. But like, you know, we’re so collectively disconnected. Right. On so many levels from, from the earth, from cycles.
[16:49] We’re so it’s all the information drivenness. It’s like. So it’s also really an easy way to like get back into like a connection to your own rhythm.
[16:57] Right. By being in connection to a larger rhythm.
[17:01] So I’m all for the moon.
[17:03] Andy Walker: I am too.
[17:05] And now I want to get a bit of taste of it. Can we, can we jump into an exercise? Are you ready for that or is there anything to add before we go there?
[17:13] Stephanie Gailing: No, please.
[17:15] Andy Walker: You’re going to guide us through a way. Well, you tell me, what are you going to guide us through?
[17:19] Stephanie Gailing: Yeah, so I was thinking that, you know,
[17:21] something that’s really fundamental and I think easy to understand is looking at the moon cycles and talking about the different phases of the 28 day moon cycle and ideas of different activities you can do at that time.
[17:38] So first also to link this, right. To find out.
[17:42] Well, we’re going to be talking about different phases, new moons, quarter moon, et cetera, et cetera. We will lead or I will lead a resource in your show notes about that’s really accessible that people can go to this website.
[17:54] It’ll get right to the page and you can see where the moon is at any time. Right. So you can even just be like, okay, where’s the moon now? So what do I do based on what we shared or okay, I want to plan,
[18:04] I’m not just going to work with today, like when is the new moon? Okay, I’m going to put that on my calendar. I’m going to plan these activities with myself or my team, what have you.
[18:12] So that will be a really good anchoring resource in terms of timing.
[18:17] So what I would say with this is that let’s work with a lunar cycle. The lunar cycle begins on the new moon.
[18:25] Now when I’m going to talk about eight different phases,
[18:28] I want people to think that each phase is not just a moment. Like we say, oh, the new moon happens at this moment, at this day in this system. We think about that moment and about three and a half days after that, right?
[18:40] So each of these phases are three and a half days.
[18:44] The new moons,
[18:46] new moon,
[18:47] new beginnings, right? This is a time to open to what’s next,
[18:54] what’s fresh, right? It’s like the planting of the seed stage,
[18:59] right? This is where you may do your intention,
[19:03] setting,
[19:05] right?
[19:05] What’s arising, or you call your team together, like, what’s arising, what’s next? Whether it’s a product service, you know, a policy, a communication device, what have you, right? This is what we want to do in the new moon.
[19:17] Because I should have said this in the beginning. From the new moon to the full moon waxing, right? The moon is getting brighter. The moon is growing in light.
[19:25] So this is when we plant things that we want to grow.
[19:30] Full moon to new moon waning,
[19:33] the light is getting smaller. This is when we’re integrating and we’re releasing.
[19:39] So back to that, back to the new moon.
[19:43] Then three and a half days later, till seven days, we have the crescent moon.
[19:49] The crescent moon is the time where, because now the moon has some light,
[19:53] you’re looking at your intentions and you’re starting to refine them a bit,
[19:59] right? Like, it’s not just sort of that inspiration and impulsiveness of the idea. It’s like,
[20:04] and you know, does this have body?
[20:07] Did we need to add a little bit of shape in terms of these intentions?
[20:12] Okay.
[20:14] Then you get to the quarter moon, the first quarter moon,
[20:19] and this is a time. Both of those quarter moons can be a time of tension.
[20:24] The sun, and not to get too technical, but the sun and the moon are in a square, square alignment.
[20:29] So there’s a little bit of tension, there’s a little bit of conflict, right?
[20:33] But, you know, what do they say? Like, if the path was easy, we might not create anything, right? So just to know, in this quarter moon, there may be tension and you’re going to try to work out,
[20:44] like, where the edges don’t meet, right? So that you could actually have more refinement of this idea. Okay, we have this idea, but then our supply chain, what have you, like, okay, how do we get that to work?
[20:57] How do we get that to anchor? How do we find some resolve? But I think it’s also really important to know, like, if you get to that moment of this is what this is about, right?
[21:06] And it’s working through that three and a half days after that, or if we can look backwards, three and a half days before the full moon is the gibbous moon.
[21:15] This is where you then take what you have been in creating and you really continue to let it grow.
[21:25] The thing is, with this,
[21:28] oftentimes people at the gibbous feel like, here it is, it’s done. I’m ready. We’re ready.
[21:33] No, continue. It’s not just at maturity yet.
[21:37] So you continue to grow. Continue to grow.
[21:41] Any questions before I get to the full moon?
[21:44] So we’re.
[21:45] Andy Walker: No, we’re stepping through these two to three days at a time with each quarter. Right. So that when we get to halfway through the month, we’re sort of 14 days in, would that be right?
[21:54] Okay, exactly.
[21:55] Stephanie Gailing: Yeah, exactly.
[21:56] Andy Walker: Yeah. All right, so then we’re gonna go to the second 14 day moon where we’re now waning, right? Are we waning in the back?
[22:02] Stephanie Gailing: Yeah, exactly, we’re waning. Yeah, we’re gonna be waning.
[22:05] Andy Walker: Okay, so keep going.
[22:07] Stephanie Gailing: So we’re at the full moon, which is the moment of the full moon, and about three and a half days after that.
[22:12] The thing about the full moon, and if we think about a full moon, a full moon is bright, right? It’s at its maximum illumination.
[22:20] This is the time when you really look to see,
[22:25] planted this seed.
[22:26] We gave it more soil, more water.
[22:29] We work through some of the edges.
[22:31] We continue to have it mature.
[22:34] What do we see?
[22:36] Right,
[22:37] we may see,
[22:39] like, wow, like, this is really great. What has come to light? Like, we now understand more how to language. This proposal that we want to share internally or externally, let’s say alternatively.
[22:52] Right? Not everything works out great. We may see. Wait a minute.
[22:55] Now that we can see, we missed something,
[22:59] right? Or this didn’t really line up right. But this seeing, this illumination and then the integration of what we see is what we get at the full moon.
[23:12] Continue on. What do we, what do we have next?
[23:14] I have to say, not that I’m biased, but this is like my. One of my favorite moon phases is the disseminating moon and the disseminating moon.
[23:24] Think about disseminating. We’re sharing.
[23:27] So the disseminating moon one. It’s a really good time for spreading the word,
[23:33] right?
[23:35] Doing your blog post or your new. I mean, if all other factors work, right? Or alignment,
[23:39] you know, sending out your newsletter,
[23:41] right? Like sharing the word.
[23:44] Because it’s this broadcast communicating time.
[23:47] It’s also a really good time for feedback,
[23:51] right? You want your other state. You know, you, we, we worked on this. Now we have our stakeholders.
[23:55] Like share with your stakeholders, some of your stakeholders, your trusted stakeholders get their feedback.
[24:00] Great. For the disseminating moon.
[24:04] Now we get to the third quarter moon.
[24:07] This is when we’re starting to kind of wrap things up now. Again, I just want to say, I’m not saying that, like, obviously all products are not built in 28 days, right.
[24:17] These are cycles of creation that we build upon.
[24:20] We’re at that.
[24:21] So we’re. What are we now, 21 days into the cycle?
[24:24] Andy Walker: Yeah, sure.
[24:26] Stephanie Gailing: We’re at the third quarter moon, or sometimes known as the last quarter moon,
[24:30] and we see at this point two kind of what stays and what goes.
[24:37] Right. We, again, it’s sort of a little bit of a crisis time where we may see what doesn’t match up.
[24:43] And so we have to resolve that and work through that.
[24:46] We start to wind down and in that there’s a release,
[24:50] like what doesn’t stay. So therefore what stays can be more fully integrated.
[24:57] And finally we get to the balsamic moon, which was the. Is the dark of the moon,
[25:02] right? The moon is dark and it’s getting darker.
[25:07] Not a good time to start things.
[25:09] No, not a good time to push things out.
[25:12] Not a good time to like, want to get feedback, you know, not initiate. It’s the moon. The energy is very sort of reflective and a little bit untethered. It’s more internal, it’s dark.
[25:25] This is when we let go,
[25:28] we release.
[25:29] Maybe we have a company retreat, you know, I don’t know. We’re like. We’re more sort of like focused inwardly and in that we’re then we’re returning to our intuition.
[25:39] But ideally we’re not releasing, starting anything at this time because it’s like it won’t catch.
[25:47] Right. Everyone sort of is more internal,
[25:49] but we are then like sort of intuitively capturing what we may have is sort of precedes for what comes next, which is the new line of.
[26:01] So that’s sort of a way to work with the cycle.
[26:03] Andy Walker: So it sounds to me like there’s different energy properties as we go through the 28 days and some would lend itself to big outbound focus and others would be like, more introspective and maybe analysis and consideration of what’s happened and I imagine everything in between.
[26:21] Stephanie Gailing: Right,
[26:22] exactly, exactly. And knowing that this is what you know, in this adds above so below way, which is sort of a maxim also of many, you know,
[26:32] the mystical traditions, including, you know, and astrology is falling under that.
[26:36] You know, that knowing that that is what the energy that is available.
[26:41] Right. Or that is encouraged to your point. Right. Sometimes they’re better for launched, for sharing, for reflection, for analysing analysis, to working through and realizing like we need to sort of crunch things or crunch numbers and see, like, what lines up and what doesn’t, and then what might need to be dispersed or released.
[27:01] And then this is like a creation cycle that you can use.
[27:05] Andy Walker: So if I gave you some different scenarios or activities, could you tell me the best phase of the moon to do it in?
[27:13] Would that be fun? Would that be okay? Okay.
[27:14] Stephanie Gailing: Yeah.
[27:15] Andy Walker: So I’ve got. Let me see.
[27:18] I’m hiring a new vice president of operations at my company.
[27:22] Right. So ops.
[27:25] So I guess there’s hiring and then there’s what he. He or she does as well. So what does that fit into the 28 days, would you say?
[27:31] Stephanie Gailing: Yeah. So before I answer the question, I also want to say, like, this is just one. That if I was going to insult on something as large as this.
[27:38] Right. There are other factors that I might take into consideration.
[27:41] Andy Walker: Okay.
[27:41] Stephanie Gailing: But we will put that aside.
[27:43] You know, if I’m considering hiring somebody new that I want to grow with the company,
[27:52] you know, I would invariably have or ideally want to have the. At least the starting or the initial creation, whether it’s like I’m redoing the job description. Right. Or I’m actually having the interviews in that.
[28:07] In that waxing period.
[28:09] You know, I don’t want to. I definitely don’t want to be doing in the third quarter moon, and I definitely don’t want to be doing in the balsonic moon. Right.
[28:15] I want to do it where there’s, like, light, it’s getting lighter, and there’s a port tending of growth and clarity.
[28:24] Andy Walker: Right. Okay. What about signing a contract?
[28:27] Stephanie Gailing: Signing a contract.
[28:29] So again, something I wouldn’t do third quarter to New Moon that last quarter.
[28:34] Um, the signing a contract, something maybe we could also talk about later with other factors.
[28:38] Um, but I would say signing a contract, I probably wouldn’t. I’ll tell you when I wouldn’t. So then we can say what I would if you were. I would rather do it on a crescent moon than a new moon.
[28:49] Right. New moon is like a new intention,
[28:51] but it’s still a little bit like the moon doesn’t have that much light.
[28:56] So I might do that on a crescent moon,
[28:58] gibbous moon, full moon,
[29:00] maybe a disseminating moon, depending upon factors.
[29:03] Andy Walker: Okay, great. What about a merger or an acquisition?
[29:09] Stephanie Gailing: Okay. And again, this is a bigger thing than just the moon.
[29:11] Andy Walker: Right.
[29:11] Stephanie Gailing: But if I’m thinking about this,
[29:14] I would say.
[29:16] Okay,
[29:17] if I’m going to sort of answer your question and add another thing which still might be under the umbrella of Your question?
[29:23] If I was doing something where it required spinning something off,
[29:27] which is like a release and a letting go.
[29:31] Andy Walker: Yeah.
[29:31] Stephanie Gailing: I would do that under like somewhere in the waning phase. Right. Because the light is getting less. So it’s, it’s, it is where reducing has flow. Right. So if I were doing that, but if I was again looking for something that I want this to grow, I want to pretend that,
[29:49] you know, one plus one is way more than two, more than two,
[29:53] I would do it probably somewhere.
[29:55] Give us the full moon.
[29:56] Andy Walker: Okay, got it.
[29:57] Stephanie Gailing: Maximum light. Maximum light. That’s growing.
[30:00] Andy Walker: Okay, what about a product or service launch? Something new.
[30:05] Stephanie Gailing: Yeah.
[30:05] So for that I would,
[30:07] my choice would be to. Factors depending. I would either do it on a crescent moon or I might actually do it, depending what the product goes on a disseminating moon.
[30:16] Right. Where I’m spreading the, I’m spreading, I’m spreading the wealth I’m sharing with you.
[30:21] Or maybe I would launch it on a crescent moon and then I would really amp up my communications. What would that be about two weeks later on the disseminating moon?
[30:30] Because then people might be more all ears.
[30:33] Andy Walker: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[30:35] Okay, cool. Okay.
[30:37] And then you said you had a tool on how we could figure out where we are in the moon cycle. So tell us a bit about that so that we can actually, I’m sure everybody’s gonna be running to the computer going, okay, let me figure this out.
[30:47] Right?
[30:48] Stephanie Gailing: I mean, there are so many, you know, now like great astrology resources, free resources online.
[30:54] And one of my favorites is called Astro Seek. It’s just this incredible website and you could do lots of different things in it, on it. But I will put in, we’ll put in the show notes, a direct link to the moon calendar.
[31:06] So you and it. And it will basically you’ll go there. There is something where you have to put in your location because then it shifts the time and then you can see that very day.
[31:16] And if you look down lower, what happens in the month after that in terms of where are we with the moon? And then you can adjust to different dates, you know, different months, different years.
[31:25] So you can start to customize so that you can plan.
[31:29] And sometimes too, if people are interested, you know, take your dates from before and look back and just see like were they in alignment? Or wait, maybe I did this and it led to that.
[31:37] Right. If you want to sort of test.
[31:39] Andy Walker: So yeah, I kind of want to go back and look at the date that we launched Woo Biz, which is, I think it was the third week of June or maybe early July.
[31:48] I don’t remember exact date, but I remember it was a Friday and we released three initial episodes.
[31:53] So I’m just curious now to see, oh, did I time that right or did I make a mistake?
[32:01] Stephanie Gailing: You know, I like to also say this just to, you know,
[32:05] like with anything, I’m not saying with what you just said, but I’m sort of bringing this more general.
[32:10] You know, I like to say there’s astrology and there’s life. Right. Like it might, let’s say that might not be the most auspicious time to sign a contract.
[32:18] But you either sign the contract or you don’t. Right. I wouldn’t be like, don’t sign the contract because of these factors. Then you just, you know, what the energetic was and then you can work to mitigate.
[32:30] Should mitigation, you know,
[32:32] be necessary,
[32:33] a.
[32:33] Andy Walker: Slow start or,
[32:35] you know, or a stumbling or a. You know what I mean? Or.
[32:38] I don’t know. I mean, maybe there’s other, other factors too. But,
[32:42] but I’m gonna go back. I’m gonna go back and I’m gonna.
[32:44] Stephanie Gailing: Look, just, I’ll help you. We can look together.
[32:46] Andy Walker: Okay, great.
[32:47] All right, so I just wanna, so let’s wind up this conversation here. I wanna give people an opportunity to find out how they can connect with you because it sounds to me like you could do some pretty in depth stuff for a business that was thinking about doing a launch or doing a startup or something like that.
[33:02] So tell us how our listeners can reach out and get to you and have conversations with you and engage in some of your services.
[33:12] Stephanie Gailing: Thank you. Yeah, the easiest way is to go to my website, stephaniegaling.com and there you’ll find information on my services. There’s a contact form to write me.
[33:22] Um, best way to sort of, you know, sort of see the breadth of what I do and my background and also the resources that I offer and then just, you know, send me a note.
[33:33] I also, you know, I work with individuals, I work with teams, I work with businesses doing, you know, a variety of things with businesses. Whether it’s like creating calendars for like marketing strategies or launch dates, things like that.
[33:46] Um, I also have, that you can see on my website, like two substacks.
[33:51] One is a weekly article that I send that basically like tracks or gives inspiration to like what the week and the opportunities may be.
[34:00] And the other one, which is called Butterfly Haikus, which is a,
[34:05] it’s a platform for taking both astrology and dreamwork and Family constellations and these different tools and techniques I use and applying it for practical insights for writers and creatives.
[34:17] And yeah, you know, and I, you know, we can also put this in the show note. I just did a booklet that talks about the different.
[34:24] The moon but the moon signs, like when the moon is in different signs and what the best activities are to do then. And while it’s written sort of for writers and creatives, it’s applicable pretty much for everybody who is creating something, right, which is business people and entrepreneurs.
[34:40] So we can also offer that as well.
[34:42] Andy Walker: Sounds like some great resources there. So I would highly encourage everybody to zip on over to Stuart, stephaniegaling g-a I l I n g.com and talk to Stephanie, read her books.
[34:55] I saw you have a dream book too. A book about dreams. Are you,
[34:58] are you a dreams expert?
[35:00] Stephanie Gailing: Well, I don’t really love the word expert, but yeah, my dreams book is about how to both work, you know, get better sleep,
[35:09] right. And like, think about your sleep and also how to, like, you know, the history of dreams, but also the practical of how to work with your dreams.
[35:17] And that is one of the services that I offer to clients as well who may want to bring a dream into a session.
[35:23] I will work with their astrology chart to help them. That gives us another layer of being able to access the dream or, you know, work with creatives, you know, working with their dreams in terms of how to access more insight and inspiration.
[35:35] So I love dreams. Are you a dreamer?
[35:37] Do you like your dreams?
[35:38] Andy Walker: I used to have a ton of dreams. I used to even, I think I used to fly in my dreams.
[35:43] As I get older, I dream less, I find, or at least I don’t remember my dreams quite as much.
[35:48] So. But I am fascinated by it. I remember it was one of the, you know, I’ve been very interested in esoteric arts over the years and one of the inspirational pieces from my childhood was my mother bought a book on dream interpretation, I think, when I was 8 or 9.
[36:01] And I was fascinated by, you know, what all these symbolisms mean and, you know,
[36:06] dreamt about a red dog. What does that mean? You know, and those kinds of things. So, so we should, you should come back and if you have the time, maybe in a few weeks time or closer to the end of the year, and let’s do a thing on dreams and business.
[36:17] I think that’d be really cool.
[36:19] Stephanie Gailing: Would love that. Love that, Love it.
[36:21] Andy Walker: Me too. Me too. Okay, well,
[36:23] stay tuned folks, because Stephanie will be coming back, but in the Meantime, zip on over to stephaniegaling.com and learn everything about her, including her amazing books,
[36:33] Planet Apothecary, the Complete Book of Dreams and Stellar Visions, Oracle Deck. So that’s three of anything else. Did I miss anything on, on, on that big list or.
[36:42] Stephanie Gailing: I mean, there’s four others, but you know,
[36:45] I mean, there’s like an astrology workbook that I did, there’s an astrology journal, there’s a book about the moon, you know, a complete guide to living with the moon. So actually that’s a really good resource to actually guide you through all of those different eight cycles.
[36:59] Andy Walker: Oh, perfect.
[37:00] Stephanie Gailing: Perfect.
[37:00] Andy Walker: Okay, I’ll make sure I put all those books in the show notes as well and you can obviously get them on Stephanie’s website as well.
[37:07] But in the meantime, let’s say goodbye. Right now we’re gonna zip on over to the Woo Biz segment where I think you’re going to take us through some some more exciting and exotic things around lunar cycles and planning events.
[37:21] And I’m going to ask you a couple other questions actually that normally I wouldn’t ask,
[37:25] but I’m going to ask anyway because it’s good for my business.
[37:29] Stephanie Gailing: So.
[37:30] Andy Walker: So that’s it for Steffi and I in this main feed. But if you do want to become a Woobiz plus member, you can go to website Woobiz Plus.
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