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Ep 7 WooBiz – How to Find Your Business Spirit Guide with Mary Alderson and Andrew Bray

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Ep 7 Show Notes

In this episode of WooBiz, host Andy Walker explores the world of spirit guides and how they can help entrepreneurs and professionals align with their higher purpose and business success. Joining Andy are two special guests: Reverend Mary Alderson, an ordained minister, psychic, medium, and creator of spirit guide pastel drawings, and Andrew Bray, metaphysical mentor and founder of Energy Awaken Studio.

Mary shares her late-in-life awakening to Spirit, describing how evidential mediumship and psychic practice opened her to messages of healing, guidance, and support. She explains the role of primary spirit guides—those who stay with us throughout life—and the “specialist” guides who step in at key moments, including in business. She also describes her unique process of creating spirit guide portraits that offer a tangible connection to the unseen.

Andrew reflects on his own relationship with guides, describing how they communicate through distinct frequencies and humor, and how tuning into those vibrations can strengthen guidance over time. Andy contributes his personal journey with spirit guides through past life regression, including encounters with his powerful guide Philomena.

Listeners are guided through a practical meditation exercise led by Mary to connect with their own business spirit guide. The group discusses how guides provide nudges, synchronicities, and signs—from inner voices to real-world opportunities—encouraging us to follow our intuition.

The conversation closes with insights into the Spiritualist Church tradition, how communities can support spiritual development, and how to invite more clarity, support, and creativity from the spirit realm into everyday and business life.

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Rev. Mary Alderson

Reverend Mary Alderson is an nordained Minister with The Bancroft Centre for Awakening Spiritual Growth. She also serves at the Brantford Spiritualist Church.

As a psychic and medium, Mary connects directly with spirit—whether it’s a loved one, a guide, or an ascended being—sharing messages of forgiveness, closure, insight, and reassurance. She says you may not always hear from who you expect, but you will hear from who you need.

Mary also creates Spirit Guide Drawings in pastel, offering a unique, tangible connection to the unseen. Beyond her spiritual work, she officiates weddings, baptisms, baby blessings, and celebrations of life—always with compassion and presence.

Mary can also officiate at wedding celebrations, baptisms or baby blessings and celebrations of life.

Reach her at: [email protected].
Her mobile number is 519-717-3208

Metaphysical mentor Andrew Bray

Andrew Bray is the owner of Energy Awaken, a metaphysical studio in Hamilton, Ontario. He is a Reiki Master in the Usui and Tibetan traditions with more than 15 years of experience and the creator of the Energy Awaken practice, which helps people reduce stress, gain clarity, and build personal resilience. Andrew is also a certified coach specializing in intuitive development, personal growth, and mindfulness. He leads workshops across Canada, the United States, and Cuba, teaching practical techniques for relaxation and focus. He also develops guided meditations and self-hypnosis tools that help individuals release old patterns and achieve personal goals.

See the studio location on Google Maps.
Website: EnergeyAwaken.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EnergyAwaken

Mary’s Spirit Guide Images

Here are a few of the spirit guide images Mary Alderson has done for her clients.
To get your own done, reach out to Mary at: [email protected].
Her mobile number is 519-717-3208

Transcript:

[00:00] Andy Walker: Want business guidance from the divine?

[00:02] Learn to connect with your spirit guides and tap into their wisdom for profit and performance.

[00:08] Today on Woo Biz,

[00:18] we’re joined by Reverend Mary Alderson, an ordained minister with the Bancroft center for Awakening Spiritual Growth.

[00:25] She also serves at the Branford Spiritualist Church. And as a psychic and medium, Mary connects directly with spirit, whether it’s a loved one, a guide,

[00:34] an ascended being sharing messages of forgiveness, closure, insight and reassurance.

[00:39] She also creates spirit guide drawings in pastel,

[00:44] and those offer a unique, tangible connection to the unseen. We’ll put some of those on the show notes for you guys to see.

[00:52] Beyond her spiritual work, she officiates weddings, baptisms, baby blessings and celebrations of life.

[00:58] And always with compassion and presence.

[01:01] Today, we’ll explore her journey, her process for connecting with spirit, and how you can connect, too, to your spirit guides. She’s going to give us a little exercise on how we can do that and even maybe get some help from them in your business.

[01:14] So that’s Mary Alderson. And joining us, we get a two for this week.

[01:18] Andrew Bray is back. You may remember Andrew from episode three. Andrew is my metaphysical mentor. He runs the Energy Awaken studio in Hamilton, Ontario.

[01:28] So welcome Andrew as well. Thanks, guys, for coming today and being with me.

[01:32] Mary Alderson: Thank you.

[01:32] Andrew Bray: Great to be here.

[01:34] Andy Walker: It’s great to hear both your voices and I’m really excited about today’s topic because we’re going to jump into spirit guides and what a spirit guide is. But before we get there,

[01:41] Mary, maybe you can give us a little background on how did you find spirit? Is this something that was with you when you were a child?

[01:48] Did you come to it later in life?

[01:50] What’s your backstory with this?

[01:52] Mary Alderson: I would say that it actually came to me later in life, but as a child,

[01:57] I always wanted to be in church.

[02:00] And my parents would go away for a weekend and my siblings would stay home, but I had to be there. And they would arrange for someone to pick me up and take me to church so that I could be there.

[02:11] And because the energy in a church, in any church,

[02:15] I just find extremely fulfilling. And eventually I discovered that my primary spirit guide is a nun.

[02:26] And I also believe that I probably lived as a nun in one of my other lives.

[02:31] And that’s the draw,

[02:33] to be in a church. There’s nothing more for me than to sit in a church and listen to the music, particularly a pipe or organ that just vibrates in the whole building.

[02:47] So that’s, that’s my love of church.

[02:49] The Church that I serve in doesn’t have any of that.

[02:54] It has good energy,

[02:55] but it certainly doesn’t have a pipe organ. We often sing without accompaniment.

[03:01] And.

[03:02] But that’s not so difficult because I did train as a sacred soloist as well. And so I’ve sung and many churches and sing in the church that I’m in now.

[03:11] And if I’m invited to another one, I sing there as well.

[03:15] But what really drew me into Understanding Spirit, my father died in 1992, and he would have never,

[03:25] never approved of this kind of woo woo biz, as you would call it. He would never approve of this.

[03:32] Andy Walker: No.

[03:32] Mary Alderson: Now, he approves now, but.

[03:34] But, yeah, you couldn’t have shut this down his throat with a broomstick. But in 1993, a year after he died, I had two friends that said, there’s a minister coming to this spiritualist church, and she does readings and, let’s go, let’s go.

[03:50] And so I thought, okay, I’ll give this a try.

[03:53] And I woke up that day and I had a terrible cold.

[03:56] I’m thinking this is God telling me I shouldn’t be going.

[04:00] But I took every cold medication I had in the house,

[04:04] and I said to my friends, I have to go first because I don’t know how long this medication’s going to hold back this runny nose and cough.

[04:12] And this minister had ribbons, and you chose at least eight or ten ribbons. And then she would pick them up, hold the ribbon and start the reading.

[04:22] So I like the color black, and so I had a lot of dark ribbons, but she picked up the black ribbon, and she says,

[04:28] I have a gentleman coming through here with lots of love and thanks. But he said. She says,

[04:35] the breathing is something I’ve never heard before.

[04:39] And he thanks you for the forget me nots that you planted at his grave site and at the side of your house.

[04:46] And I’m sitting there thinking,

[04:48] well, this is my dad. He was on a respirator, and we asked that to be taken off. And I did plant forget me nots at his grave site and at the side of my house,

[04:58] and there’s Mary Alderson, hooked, hooked to this business about being able to connect with the spirit realm.

[05:06] And I was just fascinated. And then she brought through my. My best friend’s mother and somebody’s birthday that was coming up, and that was someone else I knew. It was just fascinating.

[05:17] And then. And then you have a cousin Rita, who would be about the same age as your father, and.

[05:23] And she’s not well. So if you just Put her name. And I did have a cousin Rita, the same age as my father. If you just put her name on this piece of paper and put it over there in that bowl, it’s a healing bowl, and they’ll pray over that.

[05:35] I was just awestruck.

[05:38] And.

[05:39] And that was 1993. And where are we now? 20, 25.

[05:45] And I,

[05:46] I was just fascinated with this and so began to go to development classes and I went to several different ones. I started with the Reverend Helen Noseworthy. I ended up with her sister,

[05:58] Reverend Flo Edwards. I have studied with Reverend Sandy Greer.

[06:03] I’ve certainly listened to Reverend Andrew Bray, who’s here today several times as well, and several ministers. And then you get drawn into being comfortable with the connection with spirit and giving messages.

[06:20] And I would say this on a psychic level.

[06:23] And then every now and then you’d get this inkling of someone that may have a loved one of someone that’s passed. And so they talk about this being different than the psychic.

[06:35] This is being more of an evidential medium and pulling in somebody’s loved one and giving evidence of who this is. And so I’ve been studying with Andrew Bing with that and Jim Kinnear and other people.

[06:50] But I still am very much more a psychic than evidential medium. But I’m working on it.

[06:57] Andy Walker: Tell me what the connection is between being a psychic or being a psychic medium. You say you’re more psychic than medium, but how does that work in terms of,

[07:06] first of all,

[07:07] the church that you,

[07:08] that you,

[07:10] I guess you attend and you lead at times.

[07:13] So what’s the connection there? Maybe explain for people, because when people think about church, they think about,

[07:18] you know, Christianity and Judaism and the different major religions. So what’s the connection here between spirit, for example, and being a psychic medium? What’s. Can you explain what the Spiritualist church movement is?

[07:30] Mary Alderson: Well, this, the. With the Spiritualist church movement,

[07:35] and it started back,

[07:37] oh, early, like the early 1900s or whatever. But the one I’m in, there’s is a Christian Spiritualist church, and there are Spiritualist churches that don’t have a Christian aspect to it.

[07:50] And I’m happy working in either one. I have no problem with that.

[07:55] But the one I’m in right now is a Christian Spiritualist church. But at a Spiritualist church on a, say, let’s say a Sunday service, it’s very similar to any Protestant church in that it has.

[08:10] There’s hymn singing mine, there’s a Bible reading,

[08:14] there’s an opportunity for a lecture or a sermon. And that all happens within an hour,

[08:21] the next half hour, because it’s always an hour and a half,

[08:25] is the messages that come from spirit. And so it would just be like any demonstration of bringing through spirit to somebody that’s in the congregation.

[08:36] And so you would look out there, and for some, they. Some mediums or psychics, they see a little light above the head of the person they’re supposed to go to.

[08:45] For me, it’s just more. I’m just looking out there and I’m just drawn to somebody. There’s no light. There’s nothing. I just feel that I have this connection right now.

[08:54] We’ll say, I’ve had this connection right now with Andrew Bray, who’s sitting across from me.

[08:59] And so then you start. You start picking up information and you’re giving it to them. And often it’s.

[09:05] It’s something that’s confirmation on something that they are already thinking of or doing.

[09:12] And so now they feel that they’re going in the right path. I’m going in my right direction. This is where I’m supposed to be.

[09:20] And Andrew is right where he’s supposed to be and doing what he’s doing here with Energy Awaken and opening the door for people to understand the spirit realm that’s around them.

[09:33] And the connection that you can have with the spirit realm, we all have that connection. It’s just.

[09:40] It’s just the learning, the ability to tune into it. And people that come to a place like Energy Awaken or to a spiritualist church or a demonstration of spiritualism or of evidential mediumship will help open up the door and awaken people’s minds to.

[10:00] To. What it is that we knew before we even came here, what it is that we knew when we were infants and small toddlers and when we were young enough that we had those imaginary friends that everybody thought was just nonsense,

[10:14] but truly it was our.

[10:16] Our spirit guide that. That was there with us and talking to us and.

[10:21] And not that I recall having one myself,

[10:26] but I know many people had this imaginary friend and.

[10:30] And isn’t that lovely to have the spirit realm and to be able to see them and hear them and. And feel that love that comes from them, because it is unconditional love.

[10:41] We’re all sparks of the divine and a part of God.

[10:45] It’s a beautiful thing.

[10:47] Andy Walker: It sure is. Yeah. So who. So who are these spirit guides that are with each one of us and how many do we have? Do we have just one? We have primary?

[10:56] Do we have different ones? Like, can you speak to who’s there for us and how many are there?

[11:05] Mary Alderson: Well,

[11:08] I have been told, and I have read that we have seven.

[11:12] I don’t know if that’s true or not.

[11:14] I know that we have. I believe,

[11:18] and may not be someone else’s belief that we do have one primary spirit guide, and that spirit guide is with us from the beginning and stays with us to the end and will probably welcome us on the other side.

[11:33] I also believe that during times in our life that we’re coming up into, some say something that’s happening in our lives, and we need a different spirit guide to come in and help us with that.

[11:47] And I’ll give an example. Like, I know my primary one is the nun,

[11:51] and here I am as a minister, which was never anything I thought I was going to be doing.

[12:00] But there came a time where I was extremely upset and needed some courage.

[12:06] And at that time, I was in a course with Dale Kellaway, who teaches the.

[12:13] She was my instructor for spirit guide drawings.

[12:17] And I sat there and I drew a centurion, a Roman centurion.

[12:23] And so he was with me,

[12:26] and I know he was with me. And he gave me the courage. And I would say to you, he’s probably here with me today,

[12:33] giving me the courage to sit here and do a podcast.

[12:36] But.

[12:37] But he was there, and I could feel. I could feel that energy, and I could feel that strength,

[12:43] and. And I knew that he was there.

[12:46] I’m getting a little emotional here, Andy.

[12:48] He was there and helping me and guiding me, and I. And I trusted that. And so I feel that they come in at different times. And I know I sent.

[12:59] I sent you some pictures of some of the guides that I did, and I know that one of them looks very oriental, but my centurion, I’m sure I sent to you,

[13:09] and a very strong face and red.

[13:15] I think there was some red in the background.

[13:17] And then we think of our root chakra and know about security and safety, and that’s what he was there for,

[13:25] to help me in that time period in my life. So I know that they. You get different ones that come in,

[13:32] same as your friends. You get friends that you meet and they’re with you for a few years or maybe only a few weeks. And. And they’re gone.

[13:40] And you only needed them for that time period.

[13:43] Andy Walker: And so helpers that come in and out. Right, There’s. You said there’s one primary one, and then there’s sort of specialists. Would there be specialists? Like, yes, that’s the Perfect way.

[13:53] Yeah.

[13:53] Mary Alderson: Yes. Yes.

[13:55] Andy Walker: So would that. So then would it be reasonable to make the extension that there’s perhaps a spirit guide that will help you in business endeavors?

[14:03] Mary Alderson: I would think so, because I believe that our spirit guides,

[14:08] I would say that most of them actually lived on the earth plane at some point,

[14:14] and so that they have an understanding of what our lives are like and they understand what it is that we’re doing. They understand.

[14:25] They understand the love and the joy that we have in our life. They understand the trauma that we may have in our life, the difficulties that come up.

[14:33] So they have that kind of knowledge so that they’re able to help us and put things in place for. For us to follow.

[14:43] And what I’m going to say is that they might put an opportunity in place or they put someone in place for you to meet that’s going to help you with your endeavors, your success in whatever it is that you are trying to achieve.

[15:00] I believe when we come here,

[15:03] we have set a goal that when we come here to incarnate. And I believe that we come here several times.

[15:10] Not everybody believes that,

[15:12] but if we come here several times, we’ve made this decision to accomplish certain goals while we’re here on the earth plane.

[15:20] So our guide is here, and I expect our primary guide is trying to push us in that direction because they know this contract that we’ve made.

[15:30] And with ourselves, it’s a contract with ourselves to accomplish certain things in our life and each of us has something different. And because we come so many times,

[15:40] this, this time for me was,

[15:44] I guess, to become a minister and help people or I was a registered nurse as well.

[15:49] I never, ever wanted to be a registered nurse. That was not on my.

[15:54] I, I did not want that. And I was studying early childhood education, and I wasn’t sure that’s what I wanted either, but. And I’m sure my father wanted me to go through and be a lawyer, but that didn’t happen.

[16:06] But I needed a sum. I needed a summer job.

[16:09] And so I applied at a nursing home and I applied there to work in the kitchen, the laundry, the office,

[16:17] cleaning, anything. And they said, oh, sure, you’re hired. And, and just show up with a uniform. And I thought, well, I gotta wear a uniform for any of these jobs that I’ve applied for.

[16:26] And doesn’t a registered nurse meet me at the door and she takes me and shows me how to do a bed bath?

[16:32] I was shocked and probably out to lunch. I.

[16:37] I’m looking at this and I’m thinking I can’t do a bed bath. This isn’t for me.

[16:42] This is some old person lying in a bed and she’s giving her a bed bath. And then the instruction is that I’m doing this tomorrow.

[16:51] Oh.

[16:54] Andy Walker: So suddenly you’re thrust into the world of nursing and caring for people, and you never imagined you ever would be doing something like that. And there you are.

[17:02] Mary Alderson: There I am two weeks later. I’m thinking, I’m staying here for a year. I’m going to take biology at night school,

[17:08] and I’m going to be a registered nurse.

[17:10] Now, that happened because,

[17:12] I believe, because I was guided to that particular place to work that summer.

[17:19] And the reason was because my father and my best friend’s father knew the director of nursing there. And so it was going to be easy for me to get a job there because she knew my father and she knew my best friend’s father.

[17:31] And so all of these kind of things come into play.

[17:35] And why do they? Because they’re all set in motion, and we’re guided by our spirit guide to go to particular places to be pushed into that direction.

[17:45] And then I get pushed into being.

[17:47] Andy Walker: A minister,

[17:48] and you’re, like, nudged along. So let me just get all along. Yeah. So you. So let’s say.

[17:55] So the story kind of goes like this.

[17:57] So before you reincarnated in this body,

[18:00] you cut a deal with. With the universe, with God, with the divine on your path for this lifetime, and then the lessons you were going to learn. So you agreed to that long before you were ever born.

[18:11] So then you’re born, you live your life, you grow up.

[18:13] And these spirit guides are like, okay, so the contract you have is, you know, whatever it is that you cut and they’re going to nudge you and sort of create opportunity for you and put things in front of you or put it in your path so that you take the path that allows you to fulfill on the soul contract.

[18:28] Is that right?

[18:30] Mary Alderson: That’s right.

[18:31] That’s what I feel. That’s what I believe.

[18:34] Now, my belief could change in two weeks,

[18:37] three months, 10 years.

[18:40] You don’t know, because every time you connect with that spirit realm or have someone else or an opportunity or some person in your place placed in front of you that can change your views.

[18:53] That’s what I believe today, anyway.

[18:55] Andy Walker: And would you say this is the nun that is guiding you in this particular journey, in that particular, like, in your work incarn,

[19:01] or do you think it’s somebody else?

[19:04] Mary Alderson: I believe it’s the nun that’s directing Me this. Yes, yes.

[19:09] Andy Walker: Let me pivot really quickly here and check in with Andrew because I know he has guides as well. He’s discovered.

[19:13] Mary Alderson: Oh, yes.

[19:14] Andy Walker: And as an entrepreneur, I’d be interested in his take on this, too. So, Andrew,

[19:19] like, speaking to what Mary just explained about her journey and her guides and her. Them nudging her into certain roles in her life. What about you?

[19:30] Andrew Bray: Well, Mary spoke of things in terms of having a primary guide,

[19:34] and I’m not sure I’ve got a primary guide because it almost feels like it’s a.

[19:41] A rotating cast of support,

[19:44] and there’s sometimes it’s like there’s a chorus of information and.

[19:51] And they all. All of the voices have a distinct vibration that do seem to be more helpful for certain things, certain scenarios.

[20:00] Andy Walker: So when you say you, you know you have a vibration, the voice has a vibration.

[20:05] And Mary, this is a question for you as well. How do you guys communicate with your spirit? Guys, do you just sort of sit quietly in a room and speak out loud to them?

[20:12] Do you pray? What’s the primary method of connecting and interacting with them?

[20:19] Mary Alderson: I would say that you can talk to them all the time,

[20:23] and I do. I could be just driving, sitting in my car and driving somewhere, and I just start talking.

[20:29] And it’s not that I.

[20:31] Although I’ve heard a voice outside my head. It’s more the voices in my head. And it’s not so much voices as thoughts that come through and I listen to them and I’ll pose questions.

[20:42] It’s the same as connecting with a loved one. And I’ll be in the kitchen and I’m working on.

[20:49] On I’m baking something and I look at it and I think, oh, I wonder how much time I still need on that. And. And in my head I get, oh, you need about seven minutes.

[20:58] And I. Not so much that’s the guide as that’s my mother standing beside me in the kitchen and telling me that. But. But either way, I’m. I’m being guided, aren’t I?

[21:07] Andy Walker: And, well, our guides could be. Could be people that we knew, we did know, and maybe part of our family as well. Right? They could do that too.

[21:14] Mary Alderson: Yes. Yes. Yep.

[21:16] Andy Walker: Okay.

[21:17] Mary Alderson: I believe so. We’ll let Andrew have a go.

[21:19] Andy Walker: All right.

[21:20] Andrew Bray: Well, just because we were. We were talking about frequencies,

[21:23] I think there’s an element of.

[21:26] We match certain guides, frequencies when we reach out and want a particular guide.

[21:32] And then conversely, depending on the energy we’re in or we’re at at any given moment, they will match our frequency to step in.

[21:41] And I find just when I’m in a certain state of mind, certain emotional state that there’s, there are guides with senses of humor that just can pop in the one liners and it.

[21:54] You’ll even laugh out loud sometimes.

[21:56] But then other times when you wouldn’t be receptive to that,

[22:01] they know to take a, to stay a step back and then there’s a different kind of energy that’s more appropriate.

[22:08] And so depending on your frequency and their frequency, there’s kind of a meeting in the ether that can be very helpful when you get used to tuning in and being aware.

[22:20] Andy Walker: So different methods for different people. Sometimes it occurs as a thought or a feeling,

[22:26] you know, in my case. And I’ll tell you my story really quickly.

[22:30] So I really came to this late in life, a lot of this work and. But I did a past life regression two or three years back on Zoom with a guy out of the uk.

[22:40] His name’s Simon Bown, he’s got a great podcast as well and,

[22:44] but he’s a hypnotherapist and he does past life regression. So in that process I connected with this very, very powerful white light when I was taken to my council and this, this light identified itself in that regression as the entity Philomena, which I thought was interesting because I mean I don’t any Philomenas at all.

[23:07] But you know, since then I, I have conversations with. I’m going to call it a her because she shows up as the feminine,

[23:14] but she’s very, very strong and like unwielding to the point where I was terrified of her initially because she would show up in my, you know, you talk about voices in your head.

[23:24] I would have a conversation with her and it was.

[23:28] Now I’ve since since recognized that you’re right. There are multiple characters that I have some, some past loved ones who have, who are no longer here.

[23:37] They talk to me some sort of mediumship kind of feeling.

[23:40] But I, they all guide me in, in, in various capacities. And I, and I came to it because I did a past life regression and then recognized the personality as something when they came back and they, when Philomena came back and talked to me again, I’m like oh,

[23:56] this is a very. And maybe this speaks to what you said, Andrew. Like that distinct vibration, a feeling that this entity has that I knew was distinct say from my father in law who’s passed, who talks to me sometimes too.

[24:08] Andrew Bray: That’s right. They feel totally different.

[24:10] Mary Alderson: Really.

[24:11] Andy Walker: It’s a feeling, right? It’s that it’s a sentience. Right. A clair. Sentience, I suppose, in. In terms of that regard.

[24:17] Anyway, so that’s how I came to it. So let me pose the question to you both and maybe, Mary, you can lead on this one. And Andrew, I’d like to hear your thoughts on this too.

[24:24] Is if I’m sitting here as a listener of this pod and I’m like, oh, this is really interesting, but I have no idea how to get hold of my spirit guide or guides or recognize what are the processes by which I could start that.

[24:37] To try to figure that part out. What do I do? Mary, let’s start with you.

[24:41] Mary Alderson: I feel the best way to start making that connection, if you have no connection at all with your spirit guides,

[24:48] is through prayer and meditation.

[24:51] And a lot of people don’t meditate either. And,

[24:56] and so I feel that it’s. It’s in the.

[24:59] Sitting in a sacred place, set up a sacred spot. It could just be the corner of your living room or wherever, wherever you have it. Maybe if you’re not used to meditating too, you might want to light a candle or whatever, but you just set the.

[25:16] The tone of the room. And your prayer would be one of the.

[25:20] The intent of what it is that you’re doing.

[25:23] So when you sit in the quiet,

[25:27] or if you like music, that’s fine too. You can have a little music in the background and if that helps to raise your vibration. When we talk about frequencies and so when we’re sitting in our meditation,

[25:40] we want to raise our vibration or frequency and,

[25:47] and we want to blend with the spirit realm. And while we’re blending with them,

[25:52] we’re asking that we meet our spirit guide and. Or guides. But it’s probably easiest to just ask for one at the beginning so that you don’t get too confused or have them all blend together.

[26:06] And it may not happen the first time,

[26:08] second time, or the third time. It may take a long time to reach them. And it may be that you connect with them right away and then just keep that image in your head.

[26:18] Keep that,

[26:19] keep the feeling of the frequency or vibration that you had when you were meeting with them so that it’s easy to go back to that same frequency to meet with them again.

[26:32] Andy Walker: So you put yourself back in the same sacred space.

[26:34] You have the same conversation. You put yourself into a. You raise your vibration, you. You’re meditating,

[26:40] you reach out and you seek that energy and you see if you can connect and start a conversation with them in your head. Is that right?

[26:49] Mary Alderson: Yes. Yes.

[26:51] Andy Walker: And you said that maybe they won’t show up immediately. Is that possible? Like, what might be the experience be.

[26:56] Mary Alderson: Like to not show up immediately, I would feel, is with those that are not used to making a connection with the spirit realm,

[27:06] that they aren’t aware that they’re making a connection with the spirit realm. So it’s more like you’re practicing or at level one or level two of a course, or level three.

[27:17] I just feel that for some,

[27:19] they may not make that connection right away. And I don’t want them to be discouraged and think that they can’t, because I believe we can all make that connection. We all have them with us.

[27:31] And it’s just the understanding of how to get there and to understand that. Yeah.

[27:40] When you’re standing at a street corner and you suddenly feel you shouldn’t make that step out onto the street,

[27:46] that’s your spirit guide, or perhaps it’s an angel that’s with you that’s just holding you back and making you hesitate.

[27:53] And it can be as easy as that.

[27:56] But we as human beings have a tendency to make it difficult to reach that which is so easy and a part of us.

[28:05] Andy Walker: Andrew, what’s your advice?

[28:07] Andrew Bray: Well, I agree with everything Mary said. And just to use different words, it’s a practice in that we have to learn how to tune in.

[28:20] And the first part of that is it sounds cliche, but getting out of the way.

[28:25] We have very busy minds, and we tend to identify with our thoughts.

[28:31] And when we’re identifying with our small m mind in that stream of consciousness that’s always yammering away. And if you’re paying attention to that yammering,

[28:43] you won’t tune in.

[28:45] And an example I like, it’s an illustration that it’s not mine.

[28:50] Another teacher came up with this,

[28:52] and it was that. Imagine you’re on.

[28:55] You’re in a courtyard in Europe and there’s a market going on,

[29:00] and there’s animals and there’s children playing and there’s people yelling as they sell their wares.

[29:07] And you’re in this courtyard and there’s just all this noise. The wagon wheels on the cobblestones.

[29:12] And next to the courtyard, one side of it is this tall church. At the top of the tall church is a bell tower. The very top of the bell tower are the bells.

[29:23] And at the very top of that, there’s this tiny, tiny bell. It’s ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And if you say to somebody on the courtyard, you know, listen to the bell.

[29:32] They’re going what bell? All this noise. How can you hear anything?

[29:36] But once you know the vibration of that bell, which is just the sound, once you are familiar with that high vibrational sound,

[29:45] you know what to listen to. You know how to tune into it,

[29:49] which is a clear metaphor because you tune into a sound and we’re familiar with that. It’s the same way tuning into spirit. You’re familiar with that sound and it’s as clear as day.

[30:01] Yeah, you just know where you’re going. That’s it.

[30:02] Andy Walker: Know where you’re going. Yeah, no, it’s.

[30:04] I totally get that. It’s almost like, you know, you step into a noisy room full of people and you listen for your, your one of your loved ones or your wife, your, your boyfriend, girlfriend,

[30:15] somebody, you know, a good friend, you. And you know the sound of their voice. And so even in that hubbub,

[30:19] you can pick it out. When you focus and you filter, try to filter the noise, you can. Oh, you. I hear their, I hear their laugh. I don’t know, I don’t see them yet, but I hear.

[30:29] Right. It’s almost like. And the brain has that ability to filter randomness and pick out a signal. And I think, what is what you’re pointing to there with the bell?

[30:38] Andrew Bray: Yeah, right, right. And, and, and detaching from the stream of consciousness that we’re usually identifying as.

[30:48] Andy Walker: Okay, so let’s. So a couple things. So we talk about specialist spirit guides. Obviously with woo biz here, we’re looking at the business aspect of it, but of course, spirit guides can help us in our love life.

[30:58] I suppose with our families, you know, they’re different specialists.

[31:02] Would, could there, would there, might there be a specialist that, that helps us in our business endeavors? Would that make sense? And can we ask for that person to step forward for that guide to step forward?

[31:14] Mary Alderson: I would say yes.

[31:17] And, and I say yes because there’s no reason why you can’t ask for that.

[31:22] And I would say that it’s best to ask for things out loud too. Say them out loud and it can be just a whisper or whatever, but you speak it, what it is that you want.

[31:33] When we speak it. And our thoughts are sent out to the universe, the universe answers. The universe wants to, it truly wants to give us what it is that we want and that we require to move forward with our lives and with the business.

[31:49] Let me give this example.

[31:52] When you invited me to do this podcast, I thought,

[31:56] no, that’s not for Mary. Mary doesn’t want to do a podcast. And,

[32:02] and then I thought, but I like to do my spirit guide drawings.

[32:06] And although I get a few to do in a year,

[32:09] it might be nice to do more. And then the longer I sat on this and sat on this,

[32:14] I thought, here is a spirit guide putting this opportunity in front of my nose, and I’m ignoring it. I’m pushing it away.

[32:23] And then I thought, no, Mary, you have to do this. This has come forward.

[32:29] This is one of the opportunities that’s been placed in front of you. And you’re backing away from it,

[32:35] and you’re backing away from it because it’s my ego feel that I may be foolish, I may look ridiculous, I may not answer correctly, but what do I have to lose, really?

[32:50] So here I am. And so you put these thoughts into the universe. And my thought was,

[32:56] I’d like to do more spirit guides. And then you approach me. You and Andrew approach me with this. And I’m going, no, no, no, no, no.

[33:05] And. And yet here I sit today.

[33:08] And so I truly believe that these thoughts that we put out, these requests that we have,

[33:14] that. That they. They can come true.

[33:17] And they come true because truly,

[33:20] we are limitless. And because we have this connection, the divine.

[33:24] We are creators.

[33:26] The divine is a creator. We are creators because we’re a part of that.

[33:30] And so what it is that we wish can be created.

[33:34] And so I believe that the spirit guides do come forward to help us in our journey,

[33:41] whatever it is that we request.

[33:43] Andy Walker: And it makes a ton of sense. The other day, I was going about my business,

[33:48] and I’ve been thinking about doing a variety of different new projects. And one of them,

[33:53] it relates to a tool. My. My wife’s a ghostwriter, as people know, who’s listening to the show. She’s a New York Times bestselling ghostwriter.

[34:00] And so we are going to be building a tool to help her be more efficient at ghostwriting and maybe even selling the tool to. To want to be authors, right?

[34:11] So now, out of nowhere, I’m sitting there, minding my own business, and out of nowhere,

[34:16] I hear this voice in my head, and it’s not my voice, and it is feminine, and it says,

[34:22] call Fabish.

[34:23] Now, Fabish is.

[34:26] Is a gal that I work with years ago at Microsoft called Chris Fabish. So, hello, Chris. If you’re out there and you’re listening to this,

[34:32] so it’s called Fabish. And so everybody calls her Fabish, right? She’s really real sweet girl.

[34:37] And.

[34:38] And so I called her. I hadn’t. And I Haven’t talked to her in 20, 25 years or so. And I had the best conversation with her and she actually solved a problem and helped me answer a question.

[34:49] I was. When I was rolling around in my head about what I should do next in business,

[34:54] and I swear the voice that came, that told me to do that was not me.

[34:58] It was. It came out of left field.

[35:01] So I would imagine that must have been a spirit guide. No.

[35:04] Mary Alderson: Yes. Yes.

[35:07] Andy Walker: A swift kick in the pants.

[35:09] Mary Alderson: Yeah.

[35:09] Andy Walker: For Andy. Right. So good.

[35:12] Mary Alderson: And you listen.

[35:13] Andy Walker: You listen and I listened and I did it. Yeah.

[35:15] Mary Alderson: You followed through. Yes.

[35:17] Andy Walker: So if we get an impulse like that, then I guess the exercise or the, the, the practice here is to first of all pay attention and ask, who could that been and why are they telling me this?

[35:28] And then follow the advice. Yeah.

[35:30] Mary Alderson: Yes. And then say thank you.

[35:32] Andy Walker: Oh, and say thank you. Yes.

[35:33] Mary Alderson: Thank you. Thank you so much for. For this. Yes. Yes.

[35:38] Andy Walker: Oh, that’s great. That’s great. Anything to add there, Andrew?

[35:42] Andrew Bray: Yeah, follow up. Because I think the more you listen and the more you engage,

[35:47] the more.

[35:49] The closer they become.

[35:51] So if you ignore them,

[35:53] they take a step back.

[35:55] And I think that’s all metaphorical because everything is energy and consciousness, but the more you use it, the stronger it gets.

[36:01] Andy Walker: Yeah, no, I think you’re right there. I certainly. Since I’ve been listening to Philomene and listening for her frequency,

[36:07] she’s become louder and more.

[36:09] The resolution of her messages seem to be a lot, lot tighter, a lot clearer. And that’s me just being open to listening for her frequency and, and to. Actually I talk to her out loud and I ask her for help.

[36:20] And when I get really stuck,

[36:21] I. I’m very vocal, like I’ll go out on a walk, you talk. Told me that a lot of, you know,

[36:26] my training, you saying that in walk more, Andy and I have. And when I’m out in nature and I’m connecting with the universe,

[36:33] I find that the messages come fast and furious. And I think, you know, and certainly my connection to Philomena, my spirit guide, seems to be very, very present in that process.

[36:45] Hey, it’s Andy popping in really quickly here. If you’re a little skeptical on spirit guides, this is for you. It’s true, there is no hard scientific proof about spirit guides, but the idea of unseen helpers run through human history.

[36:58] The Greeks and the Romans spoke of them. Indigenous traditions tell of ancestors and animal guides,

[37:04] and all the major faiths include their own versions, angels, enlightened beings and divas. Even psychology Talks about inner voices and near death research shows people meeting guided figures. The sense of unseen helpers in human culture is universal.

[37:19] Okay, with that, back to the interview.

[37:23] I know I’ve asked you, Mary, to prepare a quick exercise or something that we can listeners can use to connect to those spirit guides, especially their business spirit guides.

[37:35] Are you ready to do that now? Would you like to take us through what you’re going to do for us?

[37:39] Mary Alderson: Sure.

[37:41] It’s going to be a meditation. So I would like you to get very comfortable in the seats that you’re in.

[37:49] And I know many people would say you need to sit with your feet flat on the floor and your hands palms up.

[37:58] But I’d have to say that often I’m in my La Z Boy chair.

[38:03] I would never lay down completely on a bed because I know I’ll fall asleep.

[38:08] And often in the La Z Boy that happens too.

[38:12] So whatever is comfortable and works for you. And if you’ve never had meditated before,

[38:17] but I expect if you’re,

[38:19] you’re tuned in to Yubiz, you’ve meditated before.

[38:25] So get comfortable in your seat and take a nice deep breath to the.

[38:31] Speaker D: Count of four and release and just let your shoulders drop down and take in another deep breath and release.

[38:51] And then one more deep breath and release.

[39:02] So, using your imagination,

[39:04] I want you to see the roots from the bottom of your feet going deep, deep into the earth.

[39:14] Down past any dinosaur bones, you may see all kinds of different crystals.

[39:22] And as your roots reach the center of the earth,

[39:27] there is this beautiful color of red.

[39:31] This red magnet that’s there.

[39:33] And I would ask that you have those roots,

[39:36] draw that red energy.

[39:40] Mary Alderson: Back.

[39:40] Speaker D: Up into your being and fill your body completely with that color red.

[39:48] Let it extend and glow right out your fingertips.

[39:56] And then with the top of your head, you have branches.

[40:00] Mary Alderson: What I’d ask that you send those.

[40:02] Speaker D: Branches up into the universe.

[40:06] Up into that beautiful indigo blue where the stars are the planets.

[40:13] And draw that beautiful indigo blue back down into your being.

[40:18] Let it fill your body and mix with that red.

[40:24] Let it mix entirely until it becomes a beautiful purple.

[40:31] Just a beautiful purple.

[40:34] So just breathe and relax.

[40:40] Now you’re grounded completely between heaven and earth.

[40:47] So now I to want, I want you to see or imagine a spark of light.

[40:52] It’s coming towards you and it enters in at your solar plexus and it sits there.

[41:02] So just breathe and relax.

[41:11] Now this light moves down you your body,

[41:15] down,

[41:16] down until it rests at the base of your spine.

[41:24] So just breathe and relax.

[41:35] Now this spark becomes a flame and rises through each chakra and out the top of your head at the crown,

[41:44] and it spills out and it surrounds you completely.

[41:49] So now you’re protected with this white light that surrounds you completely.

[41:59] And while sitting in this beautiful white light,

[42:03] you begin to blend with the spirit realm.

[42:09] Here. You set your intention by prayer.

[42:14] Mary Alderson: To.

[42:14] Speaker D: Meet your spirit guide,

[42:17] the one that’s going to help you with your business,

[42:21] with what it is you want to accomplish.

[42:25] Here is where you set that intent and call upon them.

[42:32] You’re grounded and protected,

[42:34] and spirit has known all along that you are coming to meet them.

[42:40] They have all gathered in this sacred space to blend with you.

[42:45] And one will come forward.

[42:50] So just walk,

[42:54] just relax.

[43:00] What do you see and what do you feel?

[43:20] What. What thoughts are coming to you?

[43:28] So just breathe and relax and allow this.

[44:38] Spent some time with your spirit guide or at least with some feelings and thoughts that have come through.

[44:47] It’s always great to thank the spirit realm that has come forward and then to realize that you are sitting in a chair and in the clothes that you’re wearing.

[45:04] And when you’re ready,

[45:06] you return to the room.

[45:10] And if you feel inclined,

[45:12] write down what it is that you’ve received in case you’re someone that has a forgetful mind.

[45:28] Andy Walker: Sam.

[46:04] Speaker D: And when you’re ready, open your eyes and come back to the room.

[46:13] Andy Walker: Well, that was very good.

[46:16] Mary Alderson: Excellent.

[46:17] Andy Walker: Yeah. Good work, Mary. Wonderful.

[46:20] I,

[46:21] interestingly enough, so I always do these exercises when. When. When we. You know, it’s not like I’m sitting here fiddling with my computer. I’m actually there with you.

[46:30] And what came forward for me was very interesting. It was a masculine energy.

[46:34] He said, there’s a spark comes to your solar plexus.

[46:37] And then there was this frequency. And this is definitely a male energy.

[46:42] And his name was Angus.

[46:45] I don’t know an Angus. Oh.

[46:47] So excellent.

[46:49] Yeah.

[46:49] Mary Alderson: And I don’t always get names. That’s very interesting.

[46:53] Andy Walker: I asked him what his name was, and he said, my name is Angus.

[46:57] And I’m like, who are you? And he said, I’m your guide. And I thought, are you my business guide? And the answer was yes. Before I could even get that thought out, it was, yes, yes, I’m here to help you with your business.

[47:08] So there you go. So that’s a really great practice. And so would you say that.

[47:13] So for somebody to sit here and go through that, if they don’t immediately get anything or nothing comes forward.

[47:21] What’s your advice there? It’s Just to try again tomorrow or anything else so that they can do.

[47:28] Mary Alderson: Yeah, try again tomorrow. And if certainly you don’t have to listen to my voice, you may find a voice that leads you through a meditation that you resonate with other than mine.

[47:45] And certainly I don’t listen to anyone. I just do this on my own in my own ad.

[47:52] And so I guess I’m listening to my own voice in my head,

[47:56] which.

[47:57] Which does not sound like the voice that I’m going to be listening to on this podcast later.

[48:03] Andy Walker: Right.

[48:03] Mary Alderson: Gonna sound. I’m just think I’m gonna say that doesn’t sound like Mary, but.

[48:11] Andy Walker: Oh, well, sometimes trying to say, God.

[48:14] Mary Alderson: Is that how I sound?

[48:16] Andy Walker: Oh, yeah, I know everybody’s funny when. When it comes to listening to their own voice on a recording.

[48:21] Good. Okay, so we’re gonna. So you. So, you know, obviously you provided structure there in that exercise, in that meditation.

[48:29] And. And as I said, as you said, I think succinctly, once you get used to it, once you know what you’re doing,

[48:35] you can just conduct your own meditation and have your own conversation. But this is.

[48:40] Obviously we’re trying to help people along who want training wheels first,

[48:44] because I.

[48:45] Mary Alderson: Have a question for you, please. When you. When you met Angus, did you see a face?

[48:51] Andy Walker: I did, yeah.

[48:53] Younger man,

[48:55] mid to late 30s,

[48:57] auburn hair.

[48:58] Hard to see his features or a body, per se. It was a masculine.

[49:05] This guy could have been Andrew’s Scottish brother.

[49:09] Mary Alderson: Oh, okay.

[49:11] Andy Walker: A little bit like Andrew. A little younger, perhaps.

[49:13] Mary Alderson: Yes. Yeah. Do you see Philomena’s face?

[49:19] Andy Walker: I saw Philomena’s face.

[49:21] I asked to. Well, when I first connected with her,

[49:28] there’s a movie called Phil. Philomena, the stars.

[49:33] What’s the dame?

[49:36] God, what’s her.

[49:37] What’s her name?

[49:38] Mary Alderson: Oh, Judy Dench.

[49:40] Andy Walker: Judi Dench. She showed me Judi Dench’s face. And I said, are you Judi Dench? And she goes, no. She said, but you’re gonna connect with my name because that’s in your occurring world.

[49:51] I said, so then after I got a bit. So it was very like a kindly female face, but it was very bright and full of divine light, like almost hard to look into her face.

[50:00] But she showed me her features. And then what happened was later on I said, are you always going to look like Judi Denchi? Says, no, that’s not who I am.

[50:09] She says, I just did that to make you feel comfortable.

[50:13] And I said,

[50:14] oh, okay. What do you really look like? And she says,

[50:17] are you sure you Want to see? And I said, is it frightening? She says, no.

[50:21] And I said, okay, just show me. And then. So she took off any kind of mask or whatever it is, spiritual interpretation.

[50:30] And I just saw this phenomenally bright white light.

[50:35] Basically a woman in her middle years in a gown. And when I looked into her face, all I see was, like, the brightness of the sun.

[50:46] And she said, this is me. This is who I am.

[50:49] She says, you don’t need,

[50:51] like, a human form to understand who I am.

[50:54] This is who I am.

[50:55] But you’ll get more comfortable with interacting with me as we move forward. And I started to develop a relationship with her,

[51:02] and now she feels like a kind of motherly, but more than motherly almost, you know,

[51:08] I mean, certainly divine, but massively energetic.

[51:12] And she gives me great comfort when I’m in her presence, which I find fascinating.

[51:18] Mary Alderson: When you talk of her,

[51:20] this is what I see.

[51:22] When you talk of her,

[51:23] I see in the movie Lord of the Rings and Cate Blanchette is some great elf. I forget what exactly her. And she takes a hold of that ring and she gets bigger and bigger and her hair flows behind her and she’s filled with all of this strength.

[51:42] Well, we know that it was.

[51:44] She was connected to all the power that could be. That was not of the good, the evil. But it just to me was.

[51:55] I could see this bright.

[51:57] You’re right, with this face,

[51:59] this bright. But the hair was flowing back and the gown flowing back and all the energy that comes with her.

[52:07] Very nice. Very.

[52:09] Andy Walker: I’m looking. I’m looking at a picture of Cate Blanchett, she,

[52:12] as she plays the elf.

[52:15] I think it was. Yeah,

[52:17] yeah, you’re right. Like that bright golden, backlit yellow hair with sort of the fine features and. Yeah,

[52:26] completely. That’s the resonance. Absolutely.

[52:28] Mary Alderson: Yes. Yes.

[52:30] Andy Walker: My version is slightly older and obviously I don’t see her features in Kate Blanchett is a very specific look, but if you imagine overexposing her face.

[52:38] Mary Alderson: Yeah.

[52:38] Andy Walker: And be more. More light than dark, then that. That would be the. That would be my Philomena, which is kind of fascinating.

[52:45] Mary Alderson: Yes.

[52:46] Andy Walker: Isn’t that interesting? Yeah, it’s great. Really good. Okay, well,

[52:51] that is our episode.

[52:54] I just want to thank you both for giving us such a wonderful journey into spirit guides and understanding them and helping us discover our own. I think it’s an incredible and wonderful thing to be able to do that.

[53:08] And when I found that for myself, it gave me such a deep seated feeling of peace to know that I wasn’t alone. And there’s something wonderful about that.

[53:17] Spirit guides tell us a bit more about that process.

[53:21] How do you offer it? What do people get when you do that for them?

[53:25] Mary Alderson: If people come to me and they request a spirit guide,

[53:30] I take their name, and sometimes they’re asking for it for somebody else. All I really need is the name of the individual, individual that. The guide that, that I’m connecting.

[53:39] But I also need their permission. I would not request someone else’s guide to come to me without their permission. And. And so when I have that,

[53:52] I. I write their name on the top of the sheet of paper that I’m drawing on.

[53:58] And then I sit in meditation and my guides help me connect to their guides and whatever guide that’s going to come forward.

[54:07] Then I begin to draw, and I use pastels with this. That’s the way I was shown or taught.

[54:13] Sometimes things change as I’m drawing them. I have to say,

[54:17] there was one woman where I completely finished the face and everything. And then the guide said, well, I want a mask on my face.

[54:27] So I’m talking to this guy saying, well,

[54:30] I’ve already done. It would have been easier to put the mask on first and then built around. Around it.

[54:35] And so I started all over again. I got another piece of paper and I started over.

[54:41] And so then I completed it. And then once I’ve completed it,

[54:46] I sit there with the guide in front of me and I begin to write. Or I’m on my computer, so I’m typing what it is that the spirit guide is giving me or what it is that I see.

[54:58] And what I see is colors that are presented.

[55:02] And I see sometimes there’s different emblems or something that’s added to it. Often it’s an ankh that gets added to it. This symbol of life or somebody else. I had to put in the Fibonacci sequence or whatever.

[55:19] Put in a little that in a corner.

[55:22] But this one particular one with the mask, what I did discover afterwards was that the woman I was doing this drawing for used to make masks.

[55:33] And this is her guide that used to give her the.

[55:36] The ideas for a mask and stuff. I had no idea this woman did that thing.

[55:40] Andy Walker: Wow.

[55:41] Mary Alderson: And so it’s very interesting what it is that you pick up. And when I talked about mediumship too, and evidential, there was another one where I’m sitting there and I’m. And I’m writing.

[55:53] And then I said, I said to her, I, there’s a gentleman that’s coming through here, and I get husband.

[56:00] But I hesitate because Because I don’t trust what it is that I’m getting. And I should.

[56:05] And so,

[56:07] but I, so I stood by it and I said, it’s a husband that’s coming through. And, and whatever he had is he had to say.

[56:14] And sure enough, she’d had a husband that had passed and he came through while I was doing this spirit guide drawing. So eventually what happens is that I give what the spirit guide gets and then I’m giving what I get just from the name and it’s my psychic connection to the name and not so much to their guide any longer.

[56:35] And I give that information as well.

[56:38] So I do that.

[56:39] I have done courses because I’ve got trays of pastels and I have paper and I’ve done maybe three workshops with that.

[56:53] And I just do a similar sort of meditation to get them relaxed because some people think they aren’t artists and some people aren’t,

[57:05] but it really doesn’t matter.

[57:08] What you get sometimes is an extremely well drawn guide where the features are exquisite and then you get something that you would think is somebody a five year old drew, but it doesn’t matter.

[57:21] What’s there is the color and the feeling that comes through and what it is they get.

[57:27] And,

[57:29] and so it really doesn’t matter if you feel you’re an artist or not. You always come up with something and you’re able to put something on that paper.

[57:37] And even if it’s just colors that you put there,

[57:40] those colors are there for a reason and for you to connect with them and to understand why that color is given to you. And everybody’s colors mean something different. We all understand the chakras and they come with colors.

[57:53] But some people might think red is something more than energy,

[57:57] you know, so you have to just let them come up with what it is that they feel this drawing, this portrait is giving them.

[58:07] So I have a lot of fun with it.

[58:08] Andy Walker: Yeah, it sounds like a great, I mean, not only for you to do it for somebody, but also for somebody to learn.

[58:15] I can totally see where people would love to draw their own spirit guides. I think that’s really, really would be a real trip, you know, so very good. Okay, so.

[58:24] Well, we’re going to put some of the examples of some of the spirit guides you have painted or drawn with your pastels on woobiz.net on the the Show Notes page for this episode.

[58:37] So for anybody who’s interested to zip on over there, I’m also going to put on there, with your permission, your phone number and Your email address so people can get hold of you in case they want their own spirit guide drawing for themselves.

[58:48] Would that be appropriate? That’s fine, yeah.

[58:50] Mary Alderson: Okay, good.

[58:51] Andy Walker: All right. And anything else you’d like to tell the audience before we shut down? I’ll give Andrew a quick moment to plug his own stuff as well in a minute. But Mary, anything else you’d like anybody to know about you or where to get hold of or I suppose we should put the link the Facebook page to the spiritualist church that you,

[59:11] that you’re in.

[59:11] Mary Alderson: That would, that would be fine.

[59:13] Andy Walker: So if I want to learn more about this, should I go visit the Facebook page that, that we’re putting in the show notes?

[59:18] Mary Alderson: Yes, yes. Yeah, that would be perfect.

[59:21] Andy Walker: Great. Well, thank you, Mary.

[59:23] Andrew,

[59:24] a quick plug for your amazing studio and amazing services you offer. I know that you’re the one who could have pulled me, helped pulled me into this and been training me like crazy.

[59:33] And I think we should invite other people to engage you and enjoy the same kind of level of expertise. But tell us a little bit about how people can connect to you.

[59:41] What, what would you like to, to talk about here?

[59:44] Andrew Bray: Just socials @energy awaken energyawaken.com My name’s Andrew Bray and it’s about all things high vibrational.

[59:53] But I just wanted to because we talked about spiritualist church a little bit. So people in the past have been surprised that because I’m into metaphysics and all of this kind of woo spirituality that I’d, I’d be going to church or be associated with the church.

[01:00:09] But then I always explain but it’s the woo church in that it’s the church with mediumship and channeling and energy healing. And it’s all the stuff that I got into on my path.

[01:00:23] But it’s all this great stuff that I find fascinating and fills my heart.

[01:00:28] But it’s in church and you don’t have to go that path, but there is that path for those people that, that it does resonate. But just about everybody other, just about everybody every other church will, will not take a spiritualist church seriously.

[01:00:46] In fact, I was meeting with a group yesterday that it seemed to be a common experience within the group of having,

[01:00:53] having trauma from organized religion in some church.

[01:00:58] And I just wanted to really stress that this church is, is not like that. It is a God is love totally woo open minded, open hearted,

[01:01:10] as long as it’s loving, everything’s fine kind of church.

[01:01:15] It’s not about putting God in the box in control.

[01:01:19] It’s about opening the box and seeing how infinite we and God and love are.

[01:01:26] Andy Walker: Love it well. And I do think that if, you know, for folks that are listening, if you look in your community, there’s probably a spiritualist church of some form,

[01:01:36] probably within a half an hour drive if you’re living in a metro area, maybe an hour. And it’s a good gateway if you’re looking to build out your spiritual nature and to explore some of these Woo tactics, topics, skills.

[01:01:49] This is a good place to surround yourself in a community where you can explore that in a safe space.

[01:01:54] And as you said, Andrew, it doesn’t necessarily have to have a strong religious component. It’s a spiritual piece that you can reinforce. And what’s lovely is if you are a Christian, there are versions like Mary talked about where you have a Protestant type service that’s mixed with a spiritualist medium,

[01:02:16] mystic type of experience where you can get trained and sort of dwell in the spiritual. And I think that’s a wonderful thing, especially these days where we’ve a lot, many of us anyway have moved away from traditional religion.

[01:02:27] It’s a, it’s a nice little thing that you can plug yourself into and get everything you would normally get out of traditional religion in a different way. So I think that’s.

[01:02:38] In fact, I’d like to explore this a bit more maybe in a future,

[01:02:42] future episode to dig deeper into the spiritualist church and what the offerings are and how to engage. That might be a fun topic to do. So we’ll put that in the file and come around to it again at some point in the future.

[01:02:55] But in the meantime,

[01:02:57] I want to thank you both for being with me today on this very exciting and amazing episode of Woo Biz. I’ve learned so much already.

[01:03:05] And Mary, you did good. You did great.

[01:03:07] Mary Alderson: Oh, thank you, thank you so much. And I, and while, while we’re sitting here, I thought, well, isn’t that interesting how your guide connected you with Andrew Bray?

[01:03:17] Andy Walker: Yeah, yeah. You know,

[01:03:20] my,

[01:03:21] it is amazing, right? Like, like and Andrew and I are like soul brothers in the sense that we come from very similar backgrounds,

[01:03:28] similar families, similar relation, parental relationships,

[01:03:33] similar like business, corporate background, evolving into this more of the spiritual. Like, it’s amazing and Andrew and I are not far off in age and it’s very, very fascinating, right, Andrew and how, how suddenly it’s just, we just kind of connected right off the first time that I stepped through his door,

[01:03:49] right. So, so that was kind of probably.

[01:03:52] Mary Alderson: Shared another life together maybe could be.

[01:03:55] Andy Walker: Soul brothers, maybe all Right. Well, with that, thank you both.

[01:03:59] It was a delight today to, to speak with you both.

[01:04:02] And for more information about these two amazing guests, please zip on over to woo biz.net and click on the current episode with Mary Alderson and Andrew Bray and you all the links that you need and the contact information you need there.

[01:04:17] If you want a spirit painting of your guide, you can connect to Mary there. Or if you’re interested in developing yourself or engaging Andrew and the many services he offers, go to energy awaken.com and you can connect Andrew there.

[01:04:33] But for the time being,

[01:04:35] we’re about to pop into our members only segment next where we’re going to explore this topic a little deeper.

[01:04:42] So we’re going to do that right now. But for the, for everybody else,

[01:04:45] thanks so much for being with us today.

[01:04:48] And don’t forget my name is Andy Walker and stay in the woo.

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