Ep 5 WooBiz - Moose Manifesting with Kay Walker

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In this powerful episode of WooBiz, we’re joined by Kay Walker—our show’s producer, bestselling ghostwriter, and an acclaimed personal development strategist. Kay pulls back the curtain on her unique MOOSE Manifesting methodology, a proven system designed to help you consciously create your desired business outcomes and personal breakthroughs.

If you can dream it, you can create it using Kay’s MOOSE method.

How to Manifest in Business

Whether you’re looking to attract more aligned clients, grow your business, find exceptional team members, or launch your next big idea, Kay walks you through a hands-on exercise that blends intuitive guidance with practical action. MOOSE stands for a five-step framework that taps into your deepest clarity, intention, and alignment—so you can magnetize results with ease and flow. It is your key on how to manifest in business.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

What is MOOSE Manifesting?

Moose Manifesting uses the acronym M-O-O-S-E

M = Make Up Your Mind – Figure out what you want and be specific. And do not limit it. Don’t say I want a car. Say: I want a luxury car that is red and it is this brand and this model.

O = Observe as if You Are Receiving – Feel in your body what it is like to realize what you want. Have the emotional experience as if you have already have what you are manifesting.

O = Obstruction Removal. Remove any key issue that may be in the way for what . You also need to remove any belief blocks. You need to believe it is possible to manifest what you want.

S = Spend Time in the Vibration of Joy – Bathe in joy, engage in frivolous fun. Do things that make you happy. You want to get into a high vibration by invoking happy, joyous, positive feelings in your life.

E = Eat Clean and Care for Mental State and Physical Body. Care for yourself. Eat things that are good for you. Find ways to stay mentally well. Exercise and get out into nature. Get enough sleep.

The episode includes:

How the MOOSE method works and why it’s different from traditional manifesting models
A guided practice you can do in real time to kickstart your next big goal
How to use inner alignment to draw in the right people, opportunities, and resources
Kay’s behind-the-scenes insights on how entrepreneurs secretly use energetics to grow with impact

Kay’s approach is bold, accessible, and refreshingly real. If you’ve ever felt like success was out of reach or the “how” was too overwhelming—this episode will flip the script.

Kay’s Recommended Resources

Kay recommend’s Neil Goddard’s book Feeling is the Secret

Kay’s Work

Kay is a bestselling ghostwriter and book collaborator behind more than 15 books including:

Buddha and the Badass by Vishen Kakhiani
The Youth Formula by Naveen Jain
Own Your Power by Jayson Waller
Reach Kay at [email protected]

Coming Soon: The Edge Mastermind

Kay will be heading up a new program for entrepeneurs and business leaders called The Edge Mastermind. Learn more: CLICK HERE

Transcript:

[00:00] Andy: Can business leaders really manifest results like clients, cash or big opportunities? New York Times best selling ghostwriter Kay Walker shares her moose method to help you bring in what you need. We even used it to call in a real moose. That’s today on Woo Biz. Today on the show, we’re joined by Kay Walker. Walker, a powerhouse in personal growth, leadership transformation, and a visionary storyteller. She’s the creative force behind bestselling books like the Buddha and the Badass with Vishen Lakhiani and the Youth Formula with Naveen Jain. Kay shaped programs at Mindvalley, coached with Fortune 500 leaders alongside Keith Farazi and led the Apollo Group. It’s a private mastermind chaired by Vishen Naveen and Dave Asprey. She’s part generalist, part deep specialist, and 100% about helping bold thinkers lead from intuition, maximizing their energy and manifesting their vision. She also happens to be my wife, which I’m grateful for every day. But today I get to introduce her as the expert that she is. So let’s dive in.

[01:15] Kay: Hey, Kay, it is so fun to be doing this with you today. And can you just introduce me like that every day?

[01:23] Andy: That’s right. Yeah. This is my old lady. Yeah. Hi. Well, it’s true. It’s all true. You have a wonderful background and you’ve had many, many wins in the world of, you know, personal development and writing the books that you have. And you’re now in the process of unghosting yourself. But before we go there, tell me a little bit about how you got into personal development. I know it’s not exactly like spiritual leadership, but I think there’s lots of crossover. So let’s start at the beginning. How did you get interested in that world?

[01:55] Kay: So I got interested in that, not necessarily because I was in that industry. I started my career as an event planner and was very fortunate when I was 21 to be very successful in that industry. In Toronto running events. I ran a venue. I had teams at the age of 21 and quickly learned that at 21 you don’t know how to be a leader and lead those teams. And that had me seek out leadership training. And I ended up at an organization called Landmark Education, which is now known as Landmark Worldwide. And that’s really where I started to work on my leadership skills, work on myself. And what I learned there, and I was very fortunate because I was only 21, was that if you work on your self internally, externally, you can achieve anything that you want.

[02:52] Andy: Right.

[02:53] Kay: And I also just want to frame for Anyone who’s listening today, Because I do know that the Woo Biz listeners come from many different areas of expertise. I want to frame what we mean by even the personal growth industry, because.

[03:07] Andy: That was my next question is like, it’s not, it’s not exactly the same. Like, if you talk about the stuff we talk about here on the show, it’s kind of on the far end of it, but it’s still mindset, it’s still mystical. Sometimes it’s spiritual. Like personal development can span a whole bunch of things, but really it’s not exactly the same. We don’t talk about psychic mediums per se in personal growth. Or do we? Maybe we do. Maybe you can characterize it.

[03:30] Kay: We actually do. So the personal growth industry, it’s also known as the personal development industry, the self improvement industry, and it as an industry itself is relatively new. It really emerged in the 20th century. But the roots of everything that we teach in personal growth comes from the stoics, comes from ancient philosophy, comes from religion, roots in religion. So it, but it really, it became kind of the personal growth industry in the 20th century when there were all these new thought leaders that were emerging. People like Dale Carnegie, he wrote this book that a lot of people are familiar with, how to Win Friends and Influence People. And that was a really big book. And then you had also from a religious perspective, you had this new thought movement emerging where people were less aligned to their religions but still still wanted to be spiritual. And then from that you had this coaching and self help book industry that started to emerge with people like Tony Robbins that were then these popular coaches. And Oprah had a lot actually to do with kind of popularizing and bringing all this kind of self help stuff more mainstream. But the roots of everything that we talk about are from ancient times, Egypt, religion. And it’s really interesting that for me specifically when I got into this work, it was all about training myself to be better in any way that I possibly could. And it started in a, in a way where I was looking at coaches like Tony Robbins and then had the opportunity to train with them in 2017. And as I continued this work, I would say that it, it shifted from a place for me. And I know a lot of people discover that is you do personal development work and as you continue, it shifts from a place of push, push, push, being hard on yourself, coaching, goal setting, to you start to explore areas of spirituality and you learn that it’s about surrender and that you can bring things into your life through surrender. And then you learn as you, as you move further, you learn more about metaphysics and the science of it all. And what I’ve seen recently is that science, spirituality, these things are converging. We have now technology that is showing us, providing us proof that certain things exist. We’re talking about manifesting today. And manifesting is, you know, a perfect example of this. In 2006, I believe it was, that was when the Secret came out on and it was like at that time it was very kind of revolutionary. You had all these experts that, that were coming and they were saying, well, if you think things and you write them down and you create a vision board, those things, if you really think about them and you take some actions, they’ll come into your life. And there were all these people that were like, wow, this is revolutionary. This is crazy. And today we have more science where we understand that thoughts are units of energy and those unit energy are the beginning of everything that we create. So I guess my, my answer to your is really that I see personal development encompassing the woo. And it’s kind of on this spectrum where if you look at it like, like a range would map someone’s level of understanding or consciousness, we would say, so you might be using tools that help you from a mindset perspective, but you are also at the same time maybe manifesting and using those tools and you just don’t know it. But as you get more aware and understand certain principles in scientific thinking now, because we have the proof, then you see that some of those things aren’t really that woo. And you see that for me, it’s, it’s become one in my mind as I’ve, as I’ve traveled the path. I’m like, oh, it, it’s, it’s all the same and it’s not the same. And the things that I once thought about are now there’s proof to them and they’re just more real for me, if that makes sense, I feel, because.

[07:44] Andy: Each of the different distinctions, even Tony Robbins sort of, if you talk, say Tony Robbins versus say Andrew Bray, who, who we’ve had on the show, you know, Andrew talks about energy and, and Tony doesn’t specifically talk about energy from what I understand, but he. There’s certainly a manipulation of energy bringing your energy up, like changing your state, which is, you know, a different way of using energy, perhaps. Yet they’re both in one lives sort of. Andrew is very much doing a Reiki and all that stuff. But still, technically, you know, energy work is personal. Developments just happen to be a particular distinction of One of them. Whereas perhaps Tony or even Landmark is a little bit more mindset and that sort of thing, I would imagine. But I can see how it would all fit into the same box.

[08:23] Kay: Yeah. And Tony does talk about energy. If you go to his UPW events, that is where. And they’re like his flagship beginning events on the fourth day. It’s all about energy, actually. But he talks about it from a more practical standpoint of eating certain foods and taking care of your health. But it is all about energy. And I know that even for him, he’s grown in his own thought processes where he shares a lot more about energy. Yeah, I would say it’s just the framing of some of these things, the way they’re framed and packaged is sometimes just more practical. Where what’s. And, and Tony’s brilliant at doing that. But what, what I have seen more recently is that things that were too woo woo before are becoming the things that people want to learn. So even mindvalley that I was privileged to work with years ago and lead the program division, they have even shifted where. People are interested in quantum leaping, people are interested in the Silva Method, which is all about intuition. People are interested in manifesting. It’s their biggest, one of their biggest courses right now. And people are interested in Astral Travel, which years ago Astral Travel was. It was my first exposure to Vishen Lakhiani before he’s the CEO of Mindvalley. Before I started working there, he was teaching Astral Travel. And that was like so weird. You know, even, just 10 years ago, even meditation 10 years ago was so weird. And now everybody’s doing it.

[10:00] Andy: It’s very foundational these days. Yeah, but, and that’s how far we’ve come. I mean, I think about just this show, you know, launching this show 10 years ago people would have, they’re already raising their eyebrows, but in a kind of a good way, like, oh yeah, yeah, I see how that fits into business. But 10 years ago it would have still been La Combaya crystals and all the rest of it. And you know, frankly, I think there’s, there’s still a lot of that out there. But I think business leaders are seeing the opportunity or cherry picking the, the woo skills that they want to bring into the business and using them to create a fact. So I think there’s a, if anything, I think the definition is broadened. You know, it’s, it’s personal development meets the New age movement meets spiritualism from the, Even the late 1800s all mixed together. And finally, I think it’s all the same stuff. It’s just attacking it from different ways. But it’s becoming much more mainstream and much more people are much more open to bringing some of these less traditional approaches to business into the fore.

[10:53] Kay: Actually, Andy, that’s one thing that I’ve seen as a ghostwriter and content creator that’s behind the scenes working with all these billionaires, millionaires, is they’re using these tactics and they were ahead of the game years ago. They just weren’t sharing about it because then it was too kind of, it was woo then. Now they’re starting to share more.

[11:12] Andy: Right, got it. Okay, well, let’s just jump. You mentioned manifesting, and I think that’s a really good, good place to go next because that really does encompass what we’ve been talking about, which is sort of quote unquote, personal development. The early, you know, secret stuff combined with improving yourself and, and optimizing how you think and, and, and creating things seemingly out of nothing. But I think you’ve. So you’ve, you started this. I remember this. This is going about what, 2020 pulled a bunch of people together and created the Moose. Moose manifesting program. So tell us a little bit about that or tell us how you came to manifesting and, and then we’ll get on to maybe some more about how we can use some of this stuff.

[11:47] Kay: Oh, Moose manifesting. Now, Now I got a bunch of people thinking, what is, what are the witches today?

[11:54] Andy: Crazy Canadian lady.

[11:55] Kay: Always been a very interesting name. So the first thing I want to say about manifesting is that everyone is manifesting all the time. We’re all manifesting. We’re just not necessarily conscious of the things we’re bringing in our life. So in order to manifest your thinking about things and you’re taking action and those things are being drawn to you. So the energy that you’re put, putting into the world, you are bringing back into your. You’re bringing into reality. You’re manifesting. And so we’re always doing it. Now what was very interesting to me is that before I knew I was doing it, I was blowing myself away because these crazy synchronicities would happen and I would be like, oh my God, like I made that thing happen. When I was an event planner and living in Toronto, I had this condo and I wanted a couch. And I really, I kept looking at this window area, area in that condo and thinking if I had a brown leather couch there, that would be the perfect thing. I kept thinking about this brown leather couch. But I was also Looking at my bank account and saying, okay, I can’t afford that couch that I want right now. But I, it was on my radar and I kept going on Craigslist as well, because on Craigslist you could sometimes find certain furniture items that you needed. And one day I went on there one morning and somebody posted a brown leather couch for free. I thought, okay, this is really strange because in the picture it looked like this beautiful couch and free. This has to be too good to be true, but I’m going to write to the person. And it was true that this, this gentleman had, he was a wealthy gentleman. He purchased a brown leather couch for his condo and it didn’t fit and he, he was just getting rid of it because he was a wealthy guy and he just needed to get rid of the couch. And so it became my couch. And the crazy thing was I told him that I didn’t have movers and he delivered the couch to me. The couch was still wrapped, it was a brand new couch. I got it for free. It was worth thousands, couple thousand dollars for this couch. So that was just like one thing. And I can give you hundreds of examples like that. But it was very strange to me because there was even the condo I was living in, I can tell you I manifested that for sure. The house that we, we, we got when we, we lived in Malaysia for a period. And then we, at that point, I know I manifested that. So it was just things where in my mind I had this very clear picture of what I wanted and I was taking, I was putting some energy into it to try and find or create these opportunities and then they would show up and I realize some people might be listening to this and thinking, a couch, wow, that’s really cool. But whatever, a house, okay, that’s cool. What about other things? Well, I’ve also manifested incredible opportunities into my life. One in particular was to work with one of the top executive coaches in the world, Keith Ferrazi. And that came when I was, I decided this was after doing some other coaching in the industry. I decided I want to be one of the world’s best. I made that decision from my home in Grimsby, Ontario, Canada. And I decided that if I was one of the top coaches, how would I be? What would I be doing? What would my day to day basis, what would I be training in? And I really started getting really clear about just if, if I was a coach, everything in my life would have to work. I would be studying and I would know all the best methods to coach my clients. In I would be taking care of my health first and foremost. So I put in this regimen, this workout regimen that was a more aggressive kind of regimen than I had before. And I was working on my speaking, my communication, and working on all these skills. And out of nowhere, a friend of mine reached out to me. I got this text message one day, and it was, hey, are you still working in content? I have a client that you might want to work with. And it happened to be Keith Farazi, who is one of the. The top coaches in the world for Fortune 500 teams executives. And he also needed a coach. And I ended up working with him and training with him, and I did do some content work for him as well. But that opportunity materialized really out of nowhere. Yet I was focused on a specific thing that I wanted, and I was taking action. That’s really important is like, we’ll talk about this later is being in and feeling how that life would be and taking actions that align to that life. And so I did this a lot. And to tell the moose.

[17:00] Andy: Tell the moose manifesting story.

[17:01] Kay: Well, yeah, so then fits in, right? You know, years. Years later, in 2020, you and I, we had been living in Malaysia because I was working with Mind Valley and we moved back to Canada, and I was in a period where I was wrapping up some books, and I was thinking, you know, go have just. I’ve just over the years been learning so many things, and I was trying to distill all the things I learned. I think you and I had a conversation about what I was great at. And one of those things you said to me, you were like, you. Something is different about what you do. You’ve gotten these crazy opportunities to go work with Mind Valley, to coach with Tony Robbins, to write these books. You have a New York Times bestseller. Like, you just make stuff happen. You make your dreams happen.

[17:42] Andy: You do, and it’s amazing.

[17:44] Kay: And. And I said, well, you know, I’m. I’m conscious about a lot of this stuff and intentional about. At the time, I was also experimenting and really deeply learning the principles of manifesting because I was fascinated by it. So the whole moose story was me applying certain principles that I had learned about manifesting. I put them to the test, and I put them to the test to bring a moose into our life. I’ve never seen a moose before, and I always wanted to see a moose.

[18:16] Andy: And, well, this is the funny thing is because we would travel up to Elliot Lake from Toronto, you know, twice a year, usually to see your mom and dad. And that’s prime moose territory. And we’ve had never seen a moose. And you’d been going there many years before I had, and you still hadn’t seen a moose.

[18:28] Kay: So, yeah, on a certain trip, I said, babe, we’re going to see a moose. This time I’m manifesting this moose. And I was actually using manifesting process and technology, which I’m going to teach you and to. To think about the moose, to take actions, to see the moose, to also kind of as. And we’ll get into this more deeply shortly. When you’re manifesting something, you also have to kind of let go of the thought that it may not happen or that you. You kind of have to have this faith and forget about it in a way too. So I was practicing all this stuff, and we went there for three days, and I had the moose on my radar. And I believe it was the last day that we were there. We were driving and we were coming.

[19:14] Andy: Home and we were going through. We kind of had to do a deviation off of the main road across a couple of hills to get to another main road.

[19:20] Kay: Yeah. And it wasn’t just one moose. There were two. And they walked right in front of our car. Yeah, I had to break a little bit. Scary. I don’t think you want to see a moose that close, but.

[19:31] Andy: So you used the whole process.

[19:32] Kay: We were joking that, that. Oh, I. I manifested that moose. But I was like, no, I was given certain principles. I believe that I manifested that moose. And then. So when it came to wanting to teach that, I. I built a principle around it and a process around moose, which is what some of participants started calling it because I used the word moose as an acronym to teach how to manifest.

[19:59] Andy: All right. Okay, so you’re going to teach that to us today or.

[20:02] Kay: I am going to teach us the moose man asking process today. And then I’m also going to teach us certain key principles and things that you need to understand around moose manifesting. Because as I’ve evolved the practice myself, I’ve learned different nuances to it.

[20:18] Andy: Okay, great. All right, so before we jump into the exercise, a couple quick questions. First of all, do you see. See this particular skill as something that a entrepreneur. I mean, I know the answer, but I’m gonna ask you because I’m interested in your insight into this. So an entrepreneur, business person, leader, that sort of thing. This can. Something they can bring into their everyday business life.

[20:36] Kay: Yeah, a hundred percent. I mean, as I said earlier, we’re always manifesting. It’s Just better if you’re doing it consciously. And I also really wanna emphasize that I’m gonna teach you a way to bring things into your life today. But. But what I’ve learned about manifesting is also that it’s a. You’re in a dance with what the universe has in store for you as well. So there could be a greater plan on a business. And so there’s. So there’s another point that I really want to emphasize in this conversation on manifesting, which is you can bring things into your life and you can use the technology that I’m going to share to do that. However you really want to think about it, that the universe has a grand plan for all of us. So even from a business perspective, there might be a grand plan for you, there might be a grand plan for your business. And so it’s really more about creating a dialogue and partnership with the universe to figure out what is ahead of you and coming into your life already, and then partner with the universe to draw that in. There’s a process that I was trained in through Agape University, which is a spiritual. Agape is a spiritual community that is led by Michael Beckwith, based in la, and he is life visioning. And life visioning is really this process. It’s really just about meditating. But as you’re meditating, you’re doing a daily meditation and you’re asking questions. And those questions are. The specific question is, what is seeking to emerge in my life? Now, if your eyes are closed and you’re sitting there and you’re meditating and you’re asking, what is seeking to emerge in my life? The more you do it, the more you will get messages. And what. One thing I learned when I was training in this class is we all get messages, but in different. Different ways. So some people feel messages, some people hear words. I’m very auditory. I always see words or hear words. Some people see visions.

[22:35] Andy: Yeah, it’s me.

[22:36] Kay: So. Yeah.

[22:37] Andy: And so I see stuff on a movie screen in my head.

[22:40] Kay: Right. We all have this different way of communicating and getting messages from the universe, or the Akashic records or whatever you want to call it, this greater intelligence that we’re all part of. And so there’s a divine. As far as what I know and believe, believe there is a divine plan for all of us. And you are always evolving on that plan. And the universe or. Or the universal forces around us actually want us to grow and do and evolve and be the best human we possibly can be. And when you do this Life visioning process, which is meditating and then daily and asking the question, what is seeking to emerge in my life over time you get these messages. And so I had vivid messages where I saw myself speaking and words where I saw that were messages about. About speaking more, all that to say that that needs to be kind of your partnership with manifesting. So and this is a really critical nuance because a lot of people will go out and manifest. They’ll say, I want this thing, I want. I want a car, I want a house, I want a job, I want a certain career for myself. And they will go out and make that thing happen. But it doesn’t mean that that thing was part of the plan. And they can be getting in their way and blocking themselves. And you don’t want to be doing that either. So the best way is that you’re open and rece and developing your abilities to connect and understand where you’re being guided and then with those messages. Right. So if Kay is getting a message in her life visioning process or meditation where it’s I gotta speak more. And I keep thinking to myself then on a day to day basis, wow, I’m sitting at a Zoom computer a lot doing writing work. I need to get out there and speak more. And I keep having those thoughts and those little intuitive hits. That’s when I know, okay, this is something I need to start putting energy into. This is something I need to bring manifestation principles to.

[24:32] Andy: Okay, so. So there’s a little bit of pre work or at least there’s a sort of bit of a self reflection before you kind of jump into this. Because you can’t kind of go, I want to won a million dollars in the lottery and then make it happen. You have to do some preparatory work.

[24:45] Kay: Well, okay, so. So that also has nuances to it too. So you can say I want a million dollars. Right. And you can go out and you can create that you just might be getting in your own way. Because the universal forces don’t want you to have a million dollars. You don’t care if you have it or it’s in. It’s actually blocking your greatest potential. That is a possibility.

[25:10] Andy: Like wanting $1 million in the lottery could block my ability to make a billion dollar business. Yeah. Yes, I see. Yeah, it makes sense.

[25:16] Kay: Well, if you want it too much, it can block your ability which we’ll get into. In can be too attached that you push something away versus bring it to you because you’re too. You become stressful and desperate. What I’m Also nodding to is that you can want something that the universe doesn’t want for you necessarily, or that isn’t in your highest, best interest. And then you can prolong or push away what is meant for you and your next greatest evolution. That’s why we have plans. Right. But us trying to direct our lives, life is actually maybe not always a good thing. We actually push off what needs to come to us.

[25:57] Andy: Right? Yeah, yeah. Sometimes we avoid things because doesn’t seem logically like the right thing, but perhaps if we let it come, it might actually lead, lead the way. It makes me think of the Surrender experiment, that book that you introduced me to called Whose that Pie?

[26:10] Kay: That is Michael Singer. And that is. Yes. So there’s a dance. You’re, you’re, you’re getting this. There’s this dance between mean Surrender is being open and receptive to what needs to come in and then co creating. So you want to think of even manifesting as co creating where there’s a starting point to it. And that starting point isn’t you. It’s not you directing what you want, it’s you being open to it.

[26:34] Andy: Right. Okay.

[26:35] Kay: There’s four other little nuances that I want to mention about manifesting before we jump into this.

[26:41] Andy: So why don’t you do that? Yeah. So give us the four key pieces. This is, these are the four things you need to do or say or, or be before you try your manifesting. Yeah.

[26:49] Kay: These are the four windows of manifestation as Michael Beckwith, you know, frames them, which is really how things actually how manifestation really works at the basis. And it’s important to understand and know this before you go and start manifesting something.

[27:04] Andy: Okay, great. So let’s hear, let’s hear them.

[27:07] Kay: As we’ve covered already, we all have manifesting powers. And so when you think about things and when you take action, those things come into your life. And you can think about this as a very practical level. There’s the, a lot of people will, will know of the thought, feeling, action cycle. It’s taught in human psychology where you, if you think something and you feel something, you’re more likely to take action and then you’re more likely to make it happen. Right. So if I’m, if I think to myself, I really want to be healthy, then I will take to eat healthy, strength train, and then the result is a healthy body. That’s very practical. But what’s happening energetically as well is if you’re thinking about something, you are also. As we’ve covered, thoughts are units of energy. So you are aligning to energetic forces to more rapidly bring something into your life. So that’s the first principle to really understand about it. I believe Beckwith calls it the job principle. So we are manifesting job principle. Yeah, we’re bringing things in. Yeah.

[28:18] Andy: Just for everybody who’s listening, we’ll put the, some of the stuff into the show notes so you can kind of go and look, look at more information about some of the stuff. Go on. So what’s number two?

[28:26] Kay: Okay, so now if you. Let’s, let’s amplify this. If you think about you’re putting out signals through your thoughts and you’re bringing things into your life. Now imagine that everybody around you is doing that as well. So when there are collective signals for things, that is when there’s this collective manifestation power that can actually. It could get in your way of what you actually want because the signals around you are so strong. A great example would be if I really want it to be a sunny day, but there are clouds outside. And everyone around me, all my neighbors, everyone is thinking, oh, it’s going to rain today. It’s going to rain today. And there are, let’s say, 20 people in my area thinking, it’s going to rain today. And they’re putting out that signal. And I’m putting out, no, it’s got to be sunny. It’s got to be sunny. It’s going to rain. Because the collective forces and energetic thoughts are bringing rain in. So this is where people can be like, well, I’m, I’m trying to get this thing. But then there’s. There’s a collective energy we have to think about.

[29:25] Andy: Right. Sounds like could be market conditions. Like, you’re in a recession. Everybody’s like, recession, recession, recession. And you’re like, no, we’re going to make. Have our best quarter. It’s. It’s harder to overcome that tsunami of energy that says it’s. The recession’s coming.

[29:41] Kay: Exactly. Now, the third one is the lesson. And the lesson is, is sometimes we need to learn something to evolve to our next stage, and we actually create the conditions for it. I have an interesting example of this in my life when I. For as long as I can remember, I’ve wanted to know what does it take to live a successful life? And I was on this path trying to figure out what it means to be successful. And I’ve also always been exploring all these existential topics and why are we on this planet? Like, what? You know, And I really wanted to know, and I really, I Got to this point in my career too where I didn’t want to be an event planner. I really wanted to be able to coach people on this. I wanted to understand the nature of reality and existence. And what happened in my life was a complete health burnout breakdown where I had to take a sabbatical from work, I had to leave my job, I got totally burnt out and I actually had a near death experience that caused me to really get in touch with what matters in the world. And that whole crazy time and experience actually put me on my path into personal development and shaped everything that I do today. So what’s really fascinating to me though is that if I look back and really understand and, and, and see I was causing a lesson to show up in my life because I actually couldn’t show up as the person I wanted to understanding these things at a very high level. And so I wanted that, I had a deep desire for that. I wanted that to happen. And so the universe gave me a horrible gift that is my biggest blessing and one of the most challenging periods of my life.

[31:30] Andy: Okay, so, but that’s the lesson. The lesson so that, so there may be a lesson in it that may be in the way of you having what you’re trying to manifest, or it may, may reconfigure itself in a slightly different way than perhaps what you wanted or thought how it would go. Is that right?

[31:45] Kay: Yeah. Sometimes you’re manifesting something and see you need to energetically be a vibrational match for things to come into your life. And so if you’re not a vibrational match, then forces will come in and will reshape you to be that vibrational match. And that comes in the way of a lesson. And sometimes it doesn’t look an often it doesn’t look the way we think it should look.

[32:12] Andy: Sometimes it feels like it’s kicking the pants, right?

[32:14] Kay: Yeah. But it trains you and it, it actually accelerates who you need to be where you can actually get there faster.

[32:21] Andy: Got it. Okay, great.

[32:22] Kay: You should be happy for your lessons. Even though sometimes they’re thankful, they don’t feel great.

[32:27] Andy: All right, good. So those are the four conditions.

[32:29] Kay: Yeah, that’s the third one. So the fourth one. So the last one is a blessing. And this is where people will, will say, why do bad things happen to good people? Why do bad things good? And why do bad people get away with stuff? So that is when, from what I know and understand and what metaphysical teachers will say about the nature of the universe is that there’s a grand plan for us all. And as part of that grand plan, sometimes we need to learn and get certain blessings. And one example I’ve heard Michael Beckwith give of this is that there was a woman that he knew who had a baby that was born to her who had a disability, and she was very, very closed off, and her heart was very close to people. And when she gave birth to this baby, her heart started to open. And then the baby passed away very early on, and that woman, her heart opened even bigger. So that. So in that instance, he may say. And we may say that that was actually. That baby was actually there for a purpose, and it was to come into the world and to open that woman’s heart as part of her journey or open the people’s journeys or hearts around it. You know, so these blessings are things that we can’t always understand, but in the grand scheme of things, and usually years later, they make a lot of sense to us, and they’re part of something that’s bigger than us, that we can’t even fathom.

[33:52] Andy: Yeah, I’ve seen that before in my career where you go, like, why is this happening to me? This is unpleasant. And then you later, you go, oh, I had to go through that because for whatever reason. Right.

[34:01] Kay: Because it opened you up.

[34:03] Andy: Opened me up.

[34:03] Kay: Yeah, yeah.

[34:04] Andy: Okay, so those are the four key things. So summarizing formation again, the first one is.

[34:09] Kay: Yeah. So the first one is your individual manifesting power, what Beckwith calls the job effect. Thoughts become things. The second is collective energy outweighs what you’re thinking individually. The third is the lesson that when we’re manifesting something, we need to energetically match that. And so forces will come in and create. Create those conditions. And then the fourth is the blessing, where we don’t always understand or know why something happens, but it needed to happen for our journey in the collective and our. For us to complete the piece of our puzzle in the giant puzzle of life.

[34:51] Andy: All right, so that. So those are the. The four things to keep in mind as you step into this exercise. So now you have an exercise for us.

[34:58] Kay: Yeah, and we. We cover those four things because there are a lot of times where you’re trying to bring something into your life and you’re like, why is this not happening? Or. Or you actually don’t see that it’s happening, but it actually is happening until a year later, and you go, oh, yeah, that’s why that had to happen for that to happen. Right. So. So. And just to know the actual universal forces that you’re up against when you’re individually trying to pursue something.

[35:23] Andy: Let’s. So what are the steps? And I gather they’re relatively simple, but take them, take us through them one by one. And what we’ll do is we’ll, we’ll put these in the show notes too, so people can get access to them later, later and save them or, or file them away or whatever for their own use.

[35:35] Kay: Yeah. So let me teach you the Moose manifesting process. And again, it’s called moose because, well, it came from that story about the moose, but also because MOOSE just makes it more fun and interesting and easier to remember. Whenever we have an acronym, it’s just easier to remember. So this is the process that if I’ve already done some work as we talked about, and I’m doing my meditations and I’m really clear on what I want. Let’s say it’s Kay is getting messages that she needs to speak more. She’s going to be on stage, she’s got to speak. I keep getting those messages. Okay, so now I’m going to manifest. I’m going to partner with the universe and I’m going to make this happen. And I’m going to use the Moose manifesting process. So the first, the M in the moose manifesting process is make up your mind. And really what that means is that when you’re manifesting something, you have to be clear, very clear about what you. You want and what you don’t want. So the more clarity, the more specific you can get about something. You know, if you want, let’s say you. Let’s just use something physical here as an example. If you want a car, you can say, I want a car, I want a car, I want a car. And you may get a car, but it may not be the car you want. If you really want a, I don’t know, a Porsche, a Maserati, a fancy car to be black, you know, then you better be really specific about what you want because it’s also going to connect to any actions you’re taking to get that thing. The other critical piece of this is you also, you want to consider what you don’t want really important, because that helps you get clarity on what you really do want. And then you always want to leave the door open for a bigger opportunity because we don’t always know what’s the best for us. So if I say I want a million dollars, I’m actually going to begin to say to myself, I want a million or more, or what the universe decides Is best for me, best for my highest vision. So.

[37:40] Andy: So. Hey. So, hey, universe. I want a million dollars or more or I just want cash to help me out. Help me, help me, please. Exactly. Not I want a billion dollars.

[37:49] Kay: A million or more. You always want to think. We, we tend to limit our thinking and think very in scarcity terms. So you want to say I want this or what is in my best and highest interests.

[38:03] Andy: Okay, great.

[38:03] Kay: So make up your mind means being very, very clear about what you want. You gotta decide what you want because the signal that you’re putting out needs to be a clear signal. If it’s a funky signal, the universe doesn’t know what to send you.

[38:17] Andy: Okay, good. All right, Next one is O.

[38:20] Kay: Next one is O. The first O. And it’s. You want to observe as if you are receiving. Observe as if you receive, you’re receiving. So in your mind, you’re gonna also visualize and you’re gonna think about what you want and you’re going to actually practice what it would be like to see it. So before the moose came into our life, I was going out daily on a walk. My mom has. We were visiting my mom and she has this beautiful path behind her, her house that’s all in nature. And you go through the trees and everything. So I would go out there and I would visualize and I would feel. This is also very, very critical. I would feel and anchor myself in the emotion of what it would be like to see a moose. So I went out and I would pause during my walk and I would think, oh, wow. Oh, it’s so cool to see this moose. Oh, that’s so awesome. And I would kind of play and pretend, but I would really, really feel in my body what it’s like. There is a great book that, that we can put in the show notes. It is by Neville Goddard. It’s a very old book, very short book. It’s called Feeling is the Secret. And the beautiful thing about some of these, these, these older books, they used to name the book by the entire message of what that book was about. Feeling is the secret Grit. So you want to feel what you want to bring into your life. It’s even more important than thinking about it. But thinking helps you feel those feelings. So observe as if you’re receiving. Receiving. The third O is obstruction removal, which sounds a little heavy or bizarre, but you want to just ask yourself what blocks are in the way. And you want to think about, first of all, external blocks, and then you want to think about belief blocks. So What I mean by that, Imagine you want, you want a million dollars to come in, or you want enough money because you really need money right now. You’re going to look at what, how could I externally be blocked? Making this. And maybe you realize, oh, my accounting isn’t in order. I haven’t filed my taxes. I’m not even looking at my bank account. I’m. I’m not paying my bills. Money doesn’t want to come to you because you’re not creating the conditions for money to come to you. Then you also want to look at your belief blocks. You might start, have these thoughts like, money’s evil. It’s the root of all evil. I can’t have the money I need or want. Money’s hard to get. Get all these kind of things. You actually want to do some work there to unravel and to get really good about your situation with money. Right. Because if you want to do the step that comes before this about really believing something’s possible for you and feeling it is and feeling like you have it already, then you can’t have those blocks because you’re going to put out different energy. Fourth is S. It is spend time in the vibration of joy along with. With just feeling like something’s already happening. You also want to really just kind of bathe in joy. A lot more frivolous fun, which is things that you do that just make you happy. A walk outside with your partner. We like to walk together. Right. So, you know, those things make us happy. But be fun, play, be silly. You will find that things flow into your life more, more when you are not this stressed, restricted energy, stress and restriction and also attachment to what you want pushes it away. Your energy is tight and restricted and it is actually forceful. It’s like either pushing something away or blocking something. So the more you’re also just enjoying life. That’s really important.

[42:04] Andy: Some people might call it like a low having a lower vibration. Right. Like some of these metaphysical folks would say, well, you know, anger, fear, fear, guilt, all very low base, energetic states. And to actually reach the divine, to connect with that higher thought and that flow, you need to bring your energy up. And that includes joy and happiness and that sort of thing, right?

[42:24] Kay: Yeah. You know, I used to have this perspective, and I know a lot of people do, where something good will happen to you or you’ll be intending something good happens, but then you’re like, oh, I’m just not gonna go there and think about that because I don’t want to get my hopes up. Or, or when something good happens, you think, oh, I’m just not gonna like enjoy this because it’ll go away soon. I have now learned to do the opposite. When something good happens, celebrated when it’s little, celebrate it. Be in that vibration of joy more because more joy will come to you, more great things will come to you.

[42:54] Andy: It’s a great attractor.

[42:55] Kay: Yeah. And then E is the final one. And this is eat, clean and care for your mental, physical body. You want to care for your physical self and your, your brain, your brain health. So I really, I believe that, you know, hydrating, getting some sleep, eating foods that are not kind of low vibrational foods like junk food, and moving your body, going out for a walk, all these things. Eating clean, caring for your body is also really important because the more mentally, physically you are healthy, that’s your baseline for just thinking, thinking good thoughts and feeling good feelings.

[43:34] Andy: Very cool. Okay, awesome. All right, so, so take us through the so M O O S E really quickly. Give us a second summary.

[43:41] Kay: So M is make up your mind. You are going to really be very conscious about what you want, what you don’t want, and you’re always going to leave room for bigger opportunities to show up. The second is observe as if you’re receiving observe. You’re going to pretend and kind of visualize and play in your mind and also feel, really try and connect to those feelings of what it would be like to have that thingy in your life. The next O is obstruction removal. You’re also going to really focus on and do some work in clearing external blocks and belief blocks. So any blocks that might be in the way of what you want and you’ll know what those are if you really focus on that. That is step three. Then we have S that is spending time in the vibration of joy. You’re going to just enjoy life more and when great things happen, appreciate them and eat, eat, clean and care for your mental and physical body because that is your base structure for really having great thoughts, great feelings and bringing great things into your life.

[44:45] Andy: Wow, it’s really great. Moose. Moose manifesting everybody. How cool is that? Okay, so now you have a framework.

[44:51] Kay: Let’s all be mooseters.

[44:52] Andy: Let’s be mooseters. All right, that’s wonderful. Thanks for that. That’s a really great model framework, I guess you would call it in the personal development business. We’ll pop that in the show. Notes. Everybody has a little reminder there. Now I do want to jump into the next segment which is going to be for our members Only that’s woo biz. Plus you guys can subscribe by going to woobiz.net and click on the subscribe button and becoming a paid subscriber. And you get the extension of the episode every week. So Kay is going to take us through some deeper dives on this Moose manifesting in the members only. But for those, for the rest of you who are just stopping here, thanks so much this week for, for being with us and for jumping in on Moose manifesting. I hope you found it mass valuable. Kay, tell us a little bit about how people can connect with you, what projects you’ve got going on. You’ve got the Edge, a collective coming up that we’re both, you and I both collaborating on. But maybe before you go in this, in this free episode when you give everybody a sense of what that is and how they can connect to it if they’re interested.

[45:52] Kay: Yeah, great. So I am also, you may hear me popping in a little bit more here and there on Woo Biz because I’m also producing the show with Amy Andy and I’m really focused right now on our corporate offering, which is the Edge Collective. This is a mastermind for business leaders who are interested in higher order skills. So we are in this age of AI and tech acceleration. Well, we’ve always been in an age of tech acceleration, but now it’s getting amplified and because of that there are so many of us who are very, who are more receptive and interested in really developing more Woo skills. If you want to learn more and deeply understand and practice manifesting with business leaders other skills like intuition skills like how to maximize and work from a place of energy management, not time management. Because often we think time will help us be more productive, but it’s actually that does not. If you ask yourself what do I want? Energetically that fills me up and gives me more energy and how do I replenish that? It’s a much better way to think. So Edge is going. It’s a mastermind and collective where we meet weekly and monthly to connect and learn from some of these incredible practitioners as well that we’re bringing in on Woo Biz. I know, Andy, you interviewed Sean Martin a few weeks back and he has already been working with some of our corporate clients to go in and do channeling sessions. So that is what some of our Edge clients get.

[47:29] Andy: Yeah, it’s exciting. It’s, it’s, it’s the idea of bringing some of these accomplished folks in who are being, who’ve been trained or configuring their gifts to help business people, to help entrepreneurs and stuff like that. So they’ll be certainly a key part of this process. And I know you’ve sort of been planning to integrate them, so that’s, I’m totally aligned with that and I’m very excited about, you know, talking to them about bringing them in too. So. Okay, great. And so how do people get connected to this if they’re interested? I know it’s not. We’re think we’re planning it for maybe a fall 2025 launch. So is there a way that people can show interest and say, yeah, I want to, I want to learn, learn more. What’s the best way to connect with you?

[48:04] Kay: Yeah. So we are posting a link to the Edge Mastermind in the show notes here and then we will be launching in September. So if you are interested in being part of this collective, submit your application and we will be in touch.

[48:19] Andy: Very good. Okay, well, we’ll make sure it goes in the show notes so everybody can see more about this. It’s going to be so in the show Notes, by the way, are going to be housed@woo biz.net and it’s going to be called the Moose Manifesting Episode because that’s what K just taught us. All right, well, that’s it for this week. Thanks so much for being here. If you do want to become a Woo Biz member, just click on the button on woobiz.net it’ll take you to your options. And in the meantime, on behalf of Kay Walker, I’m Andy Walker and we can don’t forget to stay in the Woo.

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[49:51] Kay: Sam It.

[50:43] Andy: Sam.